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Is The Disciple-Making Movement The Latest Irritating Trend?

February 4, 2025 By Brian Thorstad

Those of you who are devoted to the current disciple-making movement probably find my title to be absurd, and I suppose it is. Just to clarify: The disciple-making movement says simply that we American evangelicals need to “fix” our discipleship paradigm, our idea of what a mature or maturing devoted follower of Jesus looks like. […]

Filed Under: Church Health/Revitalization, Healthy Pastors

Thirteen Challenges For The Retiring Pastor

February 20, 2025 By Brian Thorstad

“I feel like a man without a country” – Recently retired pastor I’ve been writing about the challenges faced by soon-to-retire or newly retired pastors. Here’s a slightly amended paragraph from my posts: Lame Ducks Can Still Fly: Twelve Projects Retiring Pastors Can Work On and Twenty Ways To Redeem Your Pastoral Retirement. No other […]

Filed Under: Healthy Pastors, Pastoral Transitions

A Special Offer For Hungry Pastors

February 26, 2025 By Brian Thorstad

“I am the LORD your God, who brought you up out of Egypt. Open your mouth wide and I will fill it”           Psalm 81:10 Sorry pastor, I’m not offering restaurant gift cards today, but I want to talk to you about your hunger for a revitalized church and I do […]

Filed Under: Church Health/Revitalization, Healthy Pastors

Spatial Disorientation – Pastor: Do You Know The Condition Of Your Pastorate?

March 5, 2025 By Brian Thorstad

My wife and I have been learning about spatial disorientation by listening to airline disaster podcasts.  The phenomenon occurs when pilots, unable to see the ground because of darkness or bad weather (pilots call it “goo”), become unable to determine their aircraft’s true position relative to the ground. Their senses tell them, for instance, that […]

Filed Under: Church Health/Revitalization, Healthy Pastors, Seriously Troubled Churches

A Simple Secret For Better Evangelism

March 17, 2025 By Brian Thorstad

This will probably be the simplest post I’ve written for a long time.  Not “simplistic” I hope, but simple, and maybe even short. I was talking to a pastor a few weeks ago about his excellent church. And it really is. It’s united, growing spiritually, growing by way of new converts to Christ and joyful. […]

Filed Under: Church Health/Revitalization, Disciple Making, Healthy Pastors

15 Ways To Solve Our Pastor Shortage, Part One

March 25, 2025 By Brian Thorstad

The pastor shortage has become a serious matter in the evangelical world.  A friend just told me that in his region of his evangelical (“Bible-believing”) denomination they will be losing one third of their pastors within the next few months.  One third! My own thoughts about how we got to this point will become apparent […]

Filed Under: Healthy Pastors, Pastoral Transitions

Twenty Ways (15 wasn’t enough) To Solve Our Pastor Shortage, Conclusion

April 17, 2025 By Brian Thorstad

Over the past three weeks I’ve shared fourteen ways in which we might move towards solving our pastor shortage in the evangelical world. While I’ve done some bemoaning of our situation, your responses have been encouraging.  I have not felt like a “voice crying in the wilderness.” I’ve found that many of you share my […]

Filed Under: Church Health/Revitalization, Healthy Pastors

We All Need A Monitoring Pilot

April 23, 2025 By Brian Thorstad

I’ve mentioned before that my wife and I are fans of airline disaster podcasts, particularly, the Mentour Pilot, Petter Hornfeldt.  Petter’s great stories have frequently highlighted the importance of the monitoring pilot. Before they get into the cockpit, the commercial airliner’s captain and co-captain make a decision regarding which one of them, on this particular […]

Filed Under: Church Health/Revitalization, Healthy Pastors, Seriously Troubled Churches

Ending Pastor Abuse

May 6, 2025 By Brian Thorstad

Pastor abuse is a serious problem, but there’s nothing new about it. Old Testament prophets – spokespersons for God – and even Old Testament-era Jewish kings, who were shepherds (“pastors,” in Latin) of God’s people, endured harsh treatment at the hands of those who should have respected them. Mocked, thrown in pits, beaten, stoned and […]

Filed Under: Church Boards And Staffs, Church Health/Revitalization, Healthy Pastors, Seriously Troubled Churches

Help For Frustrated (or angry) Pastors

June 3, 2025 By Brian Thorstad

If you’re not a pastor, you may have been surprised by my title.  “What?  Pastors, frustrated or angry?  He must mean, ‘frustrated by their golf games, their cars, their lawns or even their kids’ but surely he can’t mean ‘frustrated by their churches or their ministries!’” But frustrated by their churches or ministries is exactly […]

Filed Under: Church Health/Revitalization, Healthy Pastors, Leadership

Six Ways Your Vision Can Be Dangerous

June 18, 2025 By Brian Thorstad

Donna and I just watched a documentary film called Titan, about the ill-fated deep-sea submarine of that name in which five people lost their lives on June 18, 2023.  The key figure in the story was visionary entrepreneur Stoddard Rush. As with so many great dreamers before him, Rush was brilliant, charming, passionate, fiercely devoted […]

Filed Under: Church Health/Revitalization, Healthy Pastors, Leadership

The Seventh Danger: Vision Frustration

June 25, 2025 By Brian Thorstad

It’s an awful picture isn’t it? The ancient, venerable leader Moses, who had been through so much and was so special to God and so needed by mankind, loses his temper and strikes the rock, a picture of Jesus Christ, with his precious shepherd’s rod, a symbol of both his God-given authority and his God-given […]

Filed Under: Church Health/Revitalization, Healthy Pastors, Leadership

Ten Temptations Of The Departing Pastor

July 2, 2025 By Brian Thorstad

I wish this post was a short one: “Two Temptations Of The Departing Pastor,” or something like that. In truth, departing pastors have all sorts of temptations.  All sorts. I’m going to dive right into my subject, and you’ll see what I mean.  These are not exclusive to pastors who are leaving in disgrace or […]

Filed Under: Healthy Pastors, Pastoral Transitions

The Last Temptation Of “Pastor Last”

July 10, 2025 By Brian Thorstad

Years ago, LEADERSHIP Magazine published a cartoon which depicted a grumpy looking pastor asking a colleague, “Ever have one of those days when you just HAVE TO rebuke someone?” Many pastors experience “one of those days” just after they’ve announced their resignation.  They feel like they have to rebuke their church’s board, staff or maybe […]

Filed Under: Healthy Pastors, Pastoral Transitions

Pastors Who Don’t Deserve Churches

August 12, 2025 By Brian Thorstad

Last week I wrote about churches that don’t deserve to have pastors. I’m disheartened that such churches exist, and your responses lead me to think that there are more of these congregations out there than I realized. Sadly, there’s also such a thing as the veteran pastor – or the would-be pastor – who doesn’t […]

Filed Under: Church Health/Revitalization, Healthy Pastors, Seriously Troubled Churches

“Our pastor’s gone; we got our church back!”

August 20, 2025 By Brian Thorstad

Television’s Art Linkletter used to say that “kids say the darndest things.”  He was right of course, but the same could be said of church members who are being interviewed by interim pastors, denominational leaders or consultants: “Church members say the darndest things!” The first time I heard this phrase I was gob smacked.  I […]

Filed Under: Church Health/Revitalization, Healthy Pastors, Interim Pastoring

Give Your Pastor The Gift Of Reasonable Expectations

November 5, 2025 By Brian Thorstad

Pastor Appreciation Month is already behind us, but the “holiday season” is coming on fast.  Many church members gave their pastors a gift in October, even if it was just their well-wishes.  Others are thinking about what they might give their pastor for Christmas. If that’s you, this post is for you.  If you’re a […]

Filed Under: Church Health/Revitalization, Healthy Pastors

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Testimonials

Pastor Josh Brown I wanted to send you an update. We are two years removed from your [comprehensive assessment] visit to us. Half the church is 18-30 years old. We are reaching a wide array of hurting people. The Lord has been kind to us! We have more ministry than we know what to do with. Thanks again for all you did for us!  We have a really great church!
Pastor Josh Brown
Pastor Darin Kirkman
I am so grateful to God for Brian, his ministry, and his friendship. As a result of his assessment and coaching, my church has experienced unmistakable, God-given renewal. We are increasingly living out our church's mission which is to love and glorify God by making disciples of Jesus Christ. This is clearly showing in terms of spiritual depth (i.e. more people are maturing as Christian disciples) and spiritual width (i.e. more people are becoming Christian disciples). Our communication is clearer, our structure is stronger, our leadership development process is better, our facility stewardship is more proactive, and our cultural mindset is now set on eagerly advancing the kingdom of God. I strongly recommend the Church Whisperer to you.

Pastor Darin Kirkman
Elder Jim I wanted to let you know that we have really made some huge changes in the last few months.  We are seeing new people every week and we had a leadership meeting with 23 in attendance. Pastor ______ is doing well and God is doing amazing things.  Thanks for your support, prayers and love for the church!
Elder Jim
A New Church-Goer ...thank you for your messages at [our church] over the past weeks.  I just started going to _____________ while you were there and hadn't been to church in decades.  Your messages kept me coming back...  Thank you for helping me find my way back to God.
A New Church-Goer
Pastor Trey Turner "Brian is an experienced and insightful investigator of church systems.  He has real skill in looking at and diagnosing some areas needing attention.  I benefited greatly from his insight.  As a result, our church is benefiting greatly.  The process Brian took us through gave it the encouragement it needed to begin coming out of the 2020 difficulties.  We will work on the insights Brian provided as a roadmap back to better health."
Pastor Trey Turner
Pastor Greg Lund I've appreciated so much Brian's very practical coaching as he's guided me and the leadership of our church as we've sought to become more effective for God's kingdom. His extensive experience in assisting churches navigate a variety of issues makes him highly qualified to help lead churches through congregational change.
Pastor Greg Lund
Pastor Bruce Jahnke
"Our church is extremely grateful for the insight, adaptability and wisdom Brian so graciously contributed to our needs as we transitioned.  Our pastor transition was from Father to Son, which is by definition, difficult.  Yet Brian was able to foresee issues, feelings and responses with high accuracy.  Brian is personable, yet can direct when he needs to help us be reasonable and vision-oriented."

Pastor Bruce Jahnke
Andy Shanholtz I had the privilege of co leading a pastor’s training group with Brian. Brian’s wealth of knowledge and practical experience was an asset to all of us. The interaction with the group and the relationships built was a great value. I highly recommend having Brian facilitate a group to provide invaluable resources and practical knowledge.
Andy Shanholtz
Pastor Jed Manders
Leadership development within cohorts and peer groups has become increasingly popular, and rightfully so. Being involved in Brian’s leadership training group allowed me the opportunity to work through challenges, develop strengths and learn from both reading and peer development.


Pastor Jed Manders
Pastor Mark Pitroff "I have been so privileged and encouraged to be ministered to by Brian Thorstad as I have served as an Interim Pastor here in central Wisconsin.  He has been such a help and encouragement to me and especially, to this church I have served - Faith Community Church of Waupaca.  His leadership in helping us develop the “Journey Wall” enabled us to look back on the church’s history, the high points as well as the difficulties faced, especially in recent years.   Brian has helped FCC recover from a very difficult time…  Brian was such an encouragement to us, especially in the early months of recovery and preparation."
Pastor Mark Pitroff
Pastor Dan Norman “I enjoyed getting to know the guys in the group [and] I appreciated the thought, mind and spiritual challenges presented… I found many things that I was able to immediately apply, and I am still developing next steps that much of the discussion and training of this class helped to build a foundation for. [The handouts on strategic planning] will continue to be helpful in trying to guide our church to being more intentional. This [was] exactly what I was looking for at exactly the time I needed it.”
Pastor Dan Norman
Pastor Steven Boyd  "This course showed me that I, as a solo pastor, have to do things that don’t come naturally to me and has given me some tools to do the hard things.”
Pastor Steven Boyd 
Pastor Brian Schley “I found value in our meetings and am grateful you invited me to be part of it as a ‘future senior pastor.’ I enjoyed being able to be part of the conversations and glean from those beyond me. Thanks for your leadership with the group and your heart for pastors!”
Pastor Brian Schley
Pastor Todd Sauve "It was a privilege to have been a part of a pastors group led by Brian Thorstad. It's always great to learn from other pastors, and someone needs to provide leadership to make that happen. I'm thankful that Brian was willing to do that, and to share from both his successes and failures in ministry. He's honest, humble, and cares about people."
Pastor Todd Sauve

Brian A. Thorstad

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