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Leadership In A Crisis: Ten Ways To Succeed

February 22, 2023 By Brian Thorstad

Leadership in a crisis is hard.  Very hard. In a crisis, the norm for us laughably flawed human beings who are trying to lead entire groups of laughably flawed human beings, is to make a mess of things. In a crisis, mistakes are normal, wisdom is exceptional and brilliance is almost unheard of. But if […]

Filed Under: Church Boards And Staffs, Leadership, Seriously Troubled Churches

Leadership In A Crisis: Ten Ways To Succeed, Part Two

February 28, 2023 By Brian Thorstad

Last week I shared that leadership in a crisis is so hard that it’s normal for us to use this opportunity to make a mess of things. In a crisis, mistakes are normal, wisdom is exceptional and brilliance is almost unheard of. But if you lead anything – from a family to a church to […]

Filed Under: Church Boards And Staffs, Leadership, Seriously Troubled Churches

The Revitalization Playbook: Play #1 – Help Your Church To Face The Facts

March 15, 2023 By Brian Thorstad

The human capacity for self-delusion is amazing, isn’t it? People who “can’t carry a tune in a bucket” enter singing competitions. Some of us try to squeeze into shirts or pants that are several sizes too small. Couples without carpentry skills take on remodeling projects that would make the best You Tube DIY-ers give up […]

Filed Under: Church Health/Revitalization, Seriously Troubled Churches

The Parable Of The Christmas Lutefisk

November 1, 2023 By Brian Thorstad

Author’s note: Lutefisk (loo– ta – fisk, literally, “lye fish”) is a version of codfish that involves soaking the fish in a lye solution, followed by baking.  The end result is a piece of fish that is white, almost translucent, jelled, wiggly, has a strong flavor and an even stronger scent.  Most people – including […]

Filed Under: Church Health/Revitalization, Seriously Troubled Churches

Consider A New Year’s “Physical” For Your Church

November 21, 2023 By Brian Thorstad

Nobody likes getting a physical, but most of the adults I know get one every year anyway.  We know that it’s the wise thing to do.  Problems are spotted earlier, rather than later, and the healthy habits that some patient physicians take the time to teach us improve and even extend our lives. Churches can […]

Filed Under: Church Health/Revitalization, Seriously Troubled Churches

Even More Of The Devil’s Plans For Your Church

January 31, 2024 By Brian Thorstad

“He must not be a recent convert, or he may become conceited and fall under the same judgment as the devil. He must also have a good reputation with outsiders, so that he will not fall into disgrace and into the devil’s trap.”  I Timothy 3:6,7 “Anyone you forgive, I also forgive. And what I […]

Filed Under: Church Health/Revitalization, Seriously Troubled Churches

Seven Reasons To Not Publicly Criticize Your Pastor

February 6, 2024 By Brian Thorstad

Here’s something that never ceases to amaze me.  Church members sit in their favorite spot in the worship service on Sunday morning.  They pray, praise, sing, listen and, through the words of hymns, creeds, prayers and covenants, they commit themselves anew to following Jesus and loving the brethren. The service ends, there’s a ten-minute break, […]

Filed Under: Church Health/Revitalization, Church Structure, Seriously Troubled Churches

“Pastor: How’s Your CHURCH Doing?”

November 20, 2024 By Brian Thorstad

I have many conversations with pastors which include this question.  We talk about lots of other things, from illnesses to children to football, and then I invariably get around to the “How’s your CHURCH doing?” question. Some pastors have the privilege of leading churches which are building the Kingdom of Christ with some real God-given […]

Filed Under: Book Reviews, Church Boards And Staffs, Church Health/Revitalization, Seriously Troubled Churches

How To Not Get Fired Next Time

December 5, 2024 By Brian Thorstad

This is going to be a long post.  I know it’s not for everybody but it might be for you, or someone you love, so please read the next paragraph. A couple of weeks ago I read a new post by Thom Rainer, founder and CEO of Church Answers and the author of over 40 […]

Filed Under: Church Boards And Staffs, Church Health/Revitalization, Church Structure, Healthy Pastors, Seriously Troubled Churches

Taking On The Crowd: 23 Questions To Ask Yourself Before Rebuking Your Congregation

January 8, 2025 By Brian Thorstad

Sooner or later, most pastors will sense that it’s time to “take on,” confront, rebuke or correct their congregation. Some combination of (1) his people’s words or behaviors (2) a compelling teaching of the Bible (3) the constraint or leadership of the Holy Spirit, or (4) the pastor’s own impassioned spirit, will convince him that […]

Filed Under: Healthy Pastors, Seriously Troubled Churches

Loving Your Enemies, In Church

January 14, 2025 By Brian Thorstad

“You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ But I tell you: Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, that you may be sons of your Father in heaven.” Matthew 5:43-45a We all know this simple command.  It’s challenging enough when we think in terms of […]

Filed Under: Church Health/Revitalization, Seriously Troubled Churches

Spatial Disorientation – Pastor: Do You Know The Condition Of Your Pastorate?

March 5, 2025 By Brian Thorstad

My wife and I have been learning about spatial disorientation by listening to airline disaster podcasts.  The phenomenon occurs when pilots, unable to see the ground because of darkness or bad weather (pilots call it “goo”), become unable to determine their aircraft’s true position relative to the ground. Their senses tell them, for instance, that […]

Filed Under: Church Health/Revitalization, Healthy Pastors, Seriously Troubled Churches

We All Need A Monitoring Pilot

April 23, 2025 By Brian Thorstad

I’ve mentioned before that my wife and I are fans of airline disaster podcasts, particularly, the Mentour Pilot, Petter Hornfeldt.  Petter’s great stories have frequently highlighted the importance of the monitoring pilot. Before they get into the cockpit, the commercial airliner’s captain and co-captain make a decision regarding which one of them, on this particular […]

Filed Under: Church Health/Revitalization, Healthy Pastors, Seriously Troubled Churches

Ending Pastor Abuse

May 6, 2025 By Brian Thorstad

Pastor abuse is a serious problem, but there’s nothing new about it. Old Testament prophets – spokespersons for God – and even Old Testament-era Jewish kings, who were shepherds (“pastors,” in Latin) of God’s people, endured harsh treatment at the hands of those who should have respected them. Mocked, thrown in pits, beaten, stoned and […]

Filed Under: Church Boards And Staffs, Church Health/Revitalization, Healthy Pastors, Seriously Troubled Churches

What An Outward Focus Actually Looks Like

May 28, 2025 By Brian Thorstad

Nowadays, just about everybody knows that churches should have an outward focus.  The average evangelical church member has heard the term enough times to know that, when cast as a “Sunday School question,” as in, “Does your church have an outward focus?” the orthodox answer is “yes.” I’m realizing that if I really want to […]

Filed Under: Church Health/Revitalization, Disciple Making, Seriously Troubled Churches

Some Churches Don’t Deserve To Have Pastors

August 6, 2025 By Brian Thorstad

According to Ephesians 4:7-16, the gifted church leaders whom we typically call “pastors” are gifts of the risen, glorified Jesus Christ to his churches.  According to Ephesians 2:10, each of them is a custom-designed “masterpiece” and Acts 20:28 adds that each one has been appointed an overseer by the Holy Spirit himself. The great pastoral […]

Filed Under: Church Boards And Staffs, Church Health/Revitalization, Seriously Troubled Churches

Pastors Who Don’t Deserve Churches

August 12, 2025 By Brian Thorstad

Last week I wrote about churches that don’t deserve to have pastors. I’m disheartened that such churches exist, and your responses lead me to think that there are more of these congregations out there than I realized. Sadly, there’s also such a thing as the veteran pastor – or the would-be pastor – who doesn’t […]

Filed Under: Church Health/Revitalization, Healthy Pastors, Seriously Troubled Churches

A “Perfect Storm” In A Local Church

November 11, 2025 By Brian Thorstad

Definition: “A perfect storm is a meteorological event aggravated by a rare combination of circumstances… [The term has become] an idiom for a situation where a rare combination of factors creates an unusually disastrous or powerful outcome.” Google search Most of us know the term because of The Perfect Storm movie, based on the 1997, […]

Filed Under: Church Health/Revitalization, Seriously Troubled Churches

SURVIVING A “Perfect Storm” In A Local Church

November 18, 2025 By Brian Thorstad

Last week I wrote about perfect storms in churches. In meteorology, a perfect storm is a rare event in which a combination of circumstances creates an unusually disastrous weather event. In ecclesiology (churches), a perfect storm occurs when one1 or more conflict scenarios occur, typically in the unhealthy atmosphere (culture or congregational system) of a […]

Filed Under: Church Health/Revitalization, Seriously Troubled Churches

GOD’S GRACE In The Perfect Storm

November 25, 2025 By Brian Thorstad

“I am greatly encouraged; in all our troubles my joy knows no bounds.”  The Apostle Paul in II Corinthians 7:4b In meteorology, a perfect storm is a rare event in which a combination of circumstances creates an unusually destructive weather event. In ecclesiology (churches), a perfect storm occurs when one or more conflict scenarios occur, […]

Filed Under: Church Health/Revitalization, Interim Pastoring, Seriously Troubled Churches

Ten Ways To PREVENT A Perfect Storm From Destroying Your Church

December 3, 2025 By Brian Thorstad

“But you, keep your head in all situations…”  The Apostle Paul in II Timothy 4:5a In meteorology, a perfect storm is a rare occurrence in which a combination of circumstances creates an unusually destructive weather event. In ecclesiology (churches), a perfect storm happens when conflict occurs in an unhealthy church atmosphere and is handled poorly […]

Filed Under: Church Health/Revitalization, Seriously Troubled Churches

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Pastor Josh Brown I wanted to send you an update. We are two years removed from your [comprehensive assessment] visit to us. Half the church is 18-30 years old. We are reaching a wide array of hurting people. The Lord has been kind to us! We have more ministry than we know what to do with. Thanks again for all you did for us!  We have a really great church!
Pastor Josh Brown
Pastor Darin Kirkman
I am so grateful to God for Brian, his ministry, and his friendship. As a result of his assessment and coaching, my church has experienced unmistakable, God-given renewal. We are increasingly living out our church's mission which is to love and glorify God by making disciples of Jesus Christ. This is clearly showing in terms of spiritual depth (i.e. more people are maturing as Christian disciples) and spiritual width (i.e. more people are becoming Christian disciples). Our communication is clearer, our structure is stronger, our leadership development process is better, our facility stewardship is more proactive, and our cultural mindset is now set on eagerly advancing the kingdom of God. I strongly recommend the Church Whisperer to you.

Pastor Darin Kirkman
Elder Jim I wanted to let you know that we have really made some huge changes in the last few months.  We are seeing new people every week and we had a leadership meeting with 23 in attendance. Pastor ______ is doing well and God is doing amazing things.  Thanks for your support, prayers and love for the church!
Elder Jim
A New Church-Goer ...thank you for your messages at [our church] over the past weeks.  I just started going to _____________ while you were there and hadn't been to church in decades.  Your messages kept me coming back...  Thank you for helping me find my way back to God.
A New Church-Goer
Pastor Trey Turner "Brian is an experienced and insightful investigator of church systems.  He has real skill in looking at and diagnosing some areas needing attention.  I benefited greatly from his insight.  As a result, our church is benefiting greatly.  The process Brian took us through gave it the encouragement it needed to begin coming out of the 2020 difficulties.  We will work on the insights Brian provided as a roadmap back to better health."
Pastor Trey Turner
Pastor Greg Lund I've appreciated so much Brian's very practical coaching as he's guided me and the leadership of our church as we've sought to become more effective for God's kingdom. His extensive experience in assisting churches navigate a variety of issues makes him highly qualified to help lead churches through congregational change.
Pastor Greg Lund
Pastor Bruce Jahnke
"Our church is extremely grateful for the insight, adaptability and wisdom Brian so graciously contributed to our needs as we transitioned.  Our pastor transition was from Father to Son, which is by definition, difficult.  Yet Brian was able to foresee issues, feelings and responses with high accuracy.  Brian is personable, yet can direct when he needs to help us be reasonable and vision-oriented."

Pastor Bruce Jahnke
Andy Shanholtz I had the privilege of co leading a pastor’s training group with Brian. Brian’s wealth of knowledge and practical experience was an asset to all of us. The interaction with the group and the relationships built was a great value. I highly recommend having Brian facilitate a group to provide invaluable resources and practical knowledge.
Andy Shanholtz
Pastor Jed Manders
Leadership development within cohorts and peer groups has become increasingly popular, and rightfully so. Being involved in Brian’s leadership training group allowed me the opportunity to work through challenges, develop strengths and learn from both reading and peer development.


Pastor Jed Manders
Pastor Mark Pitroff "I have been so privileged and encouraged to be ministered to by Brian Thorstad as I have served as an Interim Pastor here in central Wisconsin.  He has been such a help and encouragement to me and especially, to this church I have served - Faith Community Church of Waupaca.  His leadership in helping us develop the “Journey Wall” enabled us to look back on the church’s history, the high points as well as the difficulties faced, especially in recent years.   Brian has helped FCC recover from a very difficult time…  Brian was such an encouragement to us, especially in the early months of recovery and preparation."
Pastor Mark Pitroff
Pastor Dan Norman “I enjoyed getting to know the guys in the group [and] I appreciated the thought, mind and spiritual challenges presented… I found many things that I was able to immediately apply, and I am still developing next steps that much of the discussion and training of this class helped to build a foundation for. [The handouts on strategic planning] will continue to be helpful in trying to guide our church to being more intentional. This [was] exactly what I was looking for at exactly the time I needed it.”
Pastor Dan Norman
Pastor Steven Boyd  "This course showed me that I, as a solo pastor, have to do things that don’t come naturally to me and has given me some tools to do the hard things.”
Pastor Steven Boyd 
Pastor Brian Schley “I found value in our meetings and am grateful you invited me to be part of it as a ‘future senior pastor.’ I enjoyed being able to be part of the conversations and glean from those beyond me. Thanks for your leadership with the group and your heart for pastors!”
Pastor Brian Schley
Pastor Todd Sauve "It was a privilege to have been a part of a pastors group led by Brian Thorstad. It's always great to learn from other pastors, and someone needs to provide leadership to make that happen. I'm thankful that Brian was willing to do that, and to share from both his successes and failures in ministry. He's honest, humble, and cares about people."
Pastor Todd Sauve

Brian A. Thorstad

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