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Heaven Help Our Church! Study Guide

October 8, 2021 By Brian Thorstad

For a free copy of the Heaven Help Our Church! Study Guide, created to be used with my book, Heaven Help Our Church!, send me an email and I will email you the document. Find me at www.churchwhisperer@gmail.com

Filed Under: Church Health/Revitalization, Seriously Troubled Churches

When Good People Do Bad Things

August 29, 2009 By Brian Thorstad

Over the past few years, several television networks have broadcast reality shows with names like, “When good pets go bad,” “When animals attack,” or “When nice dogs bite.”  The common denominator in these shows is the perplexing problem of seeing normally docile, loveable animals turn mean and ugly.    In my work as a redevelopment […]

Filed Under: Church Health/Revitalization, Seriously Troubled Churches

“When Good People Do Bad Things, Part Two”

October 17, 2009 By Brian Thorstad

   Note: Elsewhere on this website is an article called, “When Good People Do Bad Things.”  The following is part two (to be followed by a part three).   I was in the sixth grade and it was my eleventh birthday, November 22, 1963.  As we were ending our physical education class, the next roomful […]

Filed Under: Church Health/Revitalization, Seriously Troubled Churches

When Good People Do Bad Things, Part Three

October 22, 2009 By Brian Thorstad

(Note: This is the third of three articles on the subject of “When Good People Do Bad Things.”)  A wise individual once said that “Renewing your church is like remodeling your house…”  If you’ve ever remodeled or attempted to remodel a house you can guess what’s coming…  “Renewing your church is like remodeling your house: it will […]

Filed Under: Church Health/Revitalization, Seriously Troubled Churches

Gaining Restoration Authority

October 2, 2008 By Brian Thorstad

Where do strategic (or “restoration” or “redevelopment”) interim pastors get the authority to change so much so fast in the churches they lead? A church-health expert once told me that “all an interim pastor can do is to give a church a good slap in the face.” As one who has been doing interim pastoring […]

Filed Under: Church Health/Revitalization, Interim Pastoring, Leadership, Seriously Troubled Churches

Letter To a Hurting Church

October 2, 2008 By Brian Thorstad

The following is a letter (with names removed) I sent to a church which was on the brink of splitting in two. I’m sorry to say that I think the letter probably has application to many other situations. I wrote it – and am placing it here – in hopes that God will use it […]

Filed Under: Church Health/Revitalization, Seriously Troubled Churches

Slaying The Big Fat Anxiety Elephant

November 17, 2021 By Brian Thorstad

Some of you know that I’m big on slaying elephants.  Elephants in the room, that is.  You can read my “old” post on the subject here.  “Elephants in the room” are subjects that many people are thinking about, distracted by or troubled by, but nobody’s talking about.  They disturb and derail our thoughts, making it […]

Filed Under: Church Health/Revitalization, Leadership, Seriously Troubled Churches

Grace Doesn’t Indulge Sin

January 28, 2022 By Brian Thorstad

I’ve heard stories like these again and again: The obnoxious deacon literally poked his finger in the chest of the new pastor in the church foyer and told him – in no uncertain terms – what he could and could not do. The overbearing old accountant spoke harshly to the young financial secretary, telling her […]

Filed Under: Church Health/Revitalization, Seriously Troubled Churches

“Our Pastor Just Went Away Mad”

July 13, 2022 By Brian Thorstad

I’m sorry to say that I have heard these very words from the leaders of more than one congregation, sometimes followed by the question: “Now what?” This should almost never happen of course.  Pastors, of all people, should know how to – as the old saying has it – “just go away,” instead of going […]

Filed Under: Church Boards And Staffs, Pastoral Transitions, Seriously Troubled Churches

Why Pastors Go Away Mad

July 19, 2022 By Brian Thorstad

I said, “Oh, that I had the wings of a dove! I would fly away and be at rest – I would flee far away and stay in the desert; I would hurry to my place of shelter, far from the tempest and storm.”  Psalm 55:7,8 Last week I wrote about the sad phenomenon of […]

Filed Under: Healthy Pastors, Pastoral Transitions, Seriously Troubled Churches

Surviving Those “No-Win” Pastoral Situations

July 28, 2022 By Brian Thorstad

I imagine that people in other professions also experience “no-win” situations.  It just so happens that, having been a pastor for many years, and working with many of them now in  coaching and consulting relationships, I’m tuned in to the dilemmas in which the leaders of churches sometimes find themselves. Such as: A beloved staff […]

Filed Under: Church Boards And Staffs, Church Health/Revitalization, Healthy Pastors, Leadership, Seriously Troubled Churches

Surviving Those No-Win Pastoral Situations, Part Two

August 3, 2022 By Brian Thorstad

“I am greatly encouraged.  In all our troubles, my joy knows no bounds.”                                                                                     […]

Filed Under: Church Boards And Staffs, Consulting & Assessments, Healthy Pastors, Leadership, Seriously Troubled Churches

Brian’s “Peace Verses”

August 17, 2022 By Brian Thorstad

Psalm 3:5,6 “I lie down and sleep;  I wake again because the LORD sustains me. I will not fear the tens of thousands drawn up against me on every side.” (NIV) Psalm 4:7,8 “You have filled my heart with greater joy than when their grain and new wine abound. I will lie down and sleep […]

Filed Under: Healthy Pastors, Leadership, Pastoral Transitions, Seriously Troubled Churches

Your Kommittees Could Be Killing Your Church

August 24, 2022 By Brian Thorstad

I’m not an anti-committee iconoclast.  I only know one committee joke: Q – “What’s a camel?” A – “A horse put together by a committee.” That’s it, and now I have that out of my system. Committees can actually be wonderful: I’ve seen pastoral search committees that served God well by helping their congregations locate […]

Filed Under: Church Health/Revitalization, Church Structure, Disciple Making, Seriously Troubled Churches, Strategic Planning

What We Can Learn From “New Pastor Revivals”

September 7, 2022 By Brian Thorstad

Many years ago, my wife and I observed that churches with new pastors frequently experience new excitement, new enthusiasm and new growth.  At some point we coined the term, “new pastor revival.” Of course, it’s not usually “revival” in the historic sense of a powerful movement of the Holy Spirit among a group of Christians […]

Filed Under: Church Health/Revitalization, Healthy Pastors, Seriously Troubled Churches

What We Can Learn From “New Pastor Revivals,” Conclusion

September 13, 2022 By Brian Thorstad

Last week I wrote about “new pastor revivals,” those wonderful seasons of new enthusiasm and excitement that follow the installation of a new parson in an old parsonage. I mentioned that while it’s not usually a “revival” in the historic sense of a powerful movement of the Holy Spirit among a group of Christians, it’s […]

Filed Under: Church Health/Revitalization, Seriously Troubled Churches

Full Disclosure Vs. No Disclosure: How Much Should We Tell?

September 26, 2022 By Brian Thorstad

Here’s the scenario: Your church’s youth director has just resigned.  He was well-liked and seemed to be effective.  Most of the church has no idea what went on behind the scenes.  Only a few leaders know that there were character issues, accountability issues, communication issues, philosophy-of-ministry issues and eventually, personal issues between the senior pastor […]

Filed Under: Church Health/Revitalization, Pastoral Transitions, Seriously Troubled Churches

Maximize Your Church’s Joy!

April 7, 2021 By Brian Thorstad

My Grandpa Thorstad was a wise guy and a tease. He usually had a twinkle in his eye and a trick up his sleave.  After his daughter, my Aunt Evelyn, moved to California, she praised her newfound “land of milk and honey” ad nauseum. My gardening-fanatic grandfather was constantly beguiled with stories of California’s bounty. […]

Filed Under: Church Health/Revitalization, Seriously Troubled Churches

Solo Pastors: Here Are 7 Ways To Keep Your Church From Killing You

January 18, 2023 By Brian Thorstad

I’m not trying to be sensational: honest. Nor am I suggesting that churches deliberately, literally, kill their solo pastors. I am saying that churches with solo pastors often, inadvertently, “kill” their pastors, in the sense of rendering them unable to continue effectively in local church ministry. Here’s one line of evidence for this: health insurance.  […]

Filed Under: Healthy Pastors, Seriously Troubled Churches

Solo Pastors: Here Are The Rest Of Those Ways To Keep Your Church From Killing You

January 25, 2023 By Brian Thorstad

I wasn’t trying to be sensational last week when I wrote about how churches with solo pastors often “kill” their pastors, in the sense of rendering them unable to continue effectively in local church ministry. I wasn’t trying to be confusing either, but it would have been better if I had clarified that I was […]

Filed Under: Church Health/Revitalization, Healthy Pastors, Seriously Troubled Churches

Why Some Churches Choose To Die

January 31, 2023 By Brian Thorstad

I don’t remember where I was or what I was doing when I got the news, or even who it was who shared it with me.  But when I heard that the church that I’d helped to start in the 1970’s had closed its doors it saddened me greatly. At only twenty-two years old, I […]

Filed Under: Church Health/Revitalization, Seriously Troubled Churches

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Pastor Josh Brown I wanted to send you an update. We are two years removed from your [comprehensive assessment] visit to us. Half the church is 18-30 years old. We are reaching a wide array of hurting people. The Lord has been kind to us! We have more ministry than we know what to do with. Thanks again for all you did for us!  We have a really great church!
Pastor Josh Brown
Pastor Darin Kirkman
I am so grateful to God for Brian, his ministry, and his friendship. As a result of his assessment and coaching, my church has experienced unmistakable, God-given renewal. We are increasingly living out our church's mission which is to love and glorify God by making disciples of Jesus Christ. This is clearly showing in terms of spiritual depth (i.e. more people are maturing as Christian disciples) and spiritual width (i.e. more people are becoming Christian disciples). Our communication is clearer, our structure is stronger, our leadership development process is better, our facility stewardship is more proactive, and our cultural mindset is now set on eagerly advancing the kingdom of God. I strongly recommend the Church Whisperer to you.

Pastor Darin Kirkman
Elder Jim I wanted to let you know that we have really made some huge changes in the last few months.  We are seeing new people every week and we had a leadership meeting with 23 in attendance. Pastor ______ is doing well and God is doing amazing things.  Thanks for your support, prayers and love for the church!
Elder Jim
A New Church-Goer ...thank you for your messages at [our church] over the past weeks.  I just started going to _____________ while you were there and hadn't been to church in decades.  Your messages kept me coming back...  Thank you for helping me find my way back to God.
A New Church-Goer
Pastor Trey Turner "Brian is an experienced and insightful investigator of church systems.  He has real skill in looking at and diagnosing some areas needing attention.  I benefited greatly from his insight.  As a result, our church is benefiting greatly.  The process Brian took us through gave it the encouragement it needed to begin coming out of the 2020 difficulties.  We will work on the insights Brian provided as a roadmap back to better health."
Pastor Trey Turner
Pastor Greg Lund I've appreciated so much Brian's very practical coaching as he's guided me and the leadership of our church as we've sought to become more effective for God's kingdom. His extensive experience in assisting churches navigate a variety of issues makes him highly qualified to help lead churches through congregational change.
Pastor Greg Lund
Pastor Bruce Jahnke
"Our church is extremely grateful for the insight, adaptability and wisdom Brian so graciously contributed to our needs as we transitioned.  Our pastor transition was from Father to Son, which is by definition, difficult.  Yet Brian was able to foresee issues, feelings and responses with high accuracy.  Brian is personable, yet can direct when he needs to help us be reasonable and vision-oriented."

Pastor Bruce Jahnke
Andy Shanholtz I had the privilege of co leading a pastor’s training group with Brian. Brian’s wealth of knowledge and practical experience was an asset to all of us. The interaction with the group and the relationships built was a great value. I highly recommend having Brian facilitate a group to provide invaluable resources and practical knowledge.
Andy Shanholtz
Pastor Jed Manders
Leadership development within cohorts and peer groups has become increasingly popular, and rightfully so. Being involved in Brian’s leadership training group allowed me the opportunity to work through challenges, develop strengths and learn from both reading and peer development.


Pastor Jed Manders
Pastor Mark Pitroff "I have been so privileged and encouraged to be ministered to by Brian Thorstad as I have served as an Interim Pastor here in central Wisconsin.  He has been such a help and encouragement to me and especially, to this church I have served - Faith Community Church of Waupaca.  His leadership in helping us develop the “Journey Wall” enabled us to look back on the church’s history, the high points as well as the difficulties faced, especially in recent years.   Brian has helped FCC recover from a very difficult time…  Brian was such an encouragement to us, especially in the early months of recovery and preparation."
Pastor Mark Pitroff
Pastor Dan Norman “I enjoyed getting to know the guys in the group [and] I appreciated the thought, mind and spiritual challenges presented… I found many things that I was able to immediately apply, and I am still developing next steps that much of the discussion and training of this class helped to build a foundation for. [The handouts on strategic planning] will continue to be helpful in trying to guide our church to being more intentional. This [was] exactly what I was looking for at exactly the time I needed it.”
Pastor Dan Norman
Pastor Steven Boyd  "This course showed me that I, as a solo pastor, have to do things that don’t come naturally to me and has given me some tools to do the hard things.”
Pastor Steven Boyd 
Pastor Brian Schley “I found value in our meetings and am grateful you invited me to be part of it as a ‘future senior pastor.’ I enjoyed being able to be part of the conversations and glean from those beyond me. Thanks for your leadership with the group and your heart for pastors!”
Pastor Brian Schley
Pastor Todd Sauve "It was a privilege to have been a part of a pastors group led by Brian Thorstad. It's always great to learn from other pastors, and someone needs to provide leadership to make that happen. I'm thankful that Brian was willing to do that, and to share from both his successes and failures in ministry. He's honest, humble, and cares about people."
Pastor Todd Sauve

Brian A. Thorstad

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