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How Your Church Can Get A Great Preacher

May 20, 2021 By Brian Thorstad

Most church-going people want their congregation to have a great preacher.  Good for them. Why would we want anything less? The wrong way to make this happen is to get rid of your current preacher and go find one who is already great. There are all sorts of problems with this approach which we won’t […]

Filed Under: Church Boards And Staffs, Church Health/Revitalization

Leadership In A Crisis: Ten Ways To Succeed

February 22, 2023 By Brian Thorstad

Leadership in a crisis is hard.  Very hard. In a crisis, the norm for us laughably flawed human beings who are trying to lead entire groups of laughably flawed human beings, is to make a mess of things. In a crisis, mistakes are normal, wisdom is exceptional and brilliance is almost unheard of. But if […]

Filed Under: Church Boards And Staffs, Leadership, Seriously Troubled Churches

Leadership In A Crisis: Ten Ways To Succeed, Part Two

February 28, 2023 By Brian Thorstad

Last week I shared that leadership in a crisis is so hard that it’s normal for us to use this opportunity to make a mess of things. In a crisis, mistakes are normal, wisdom is exceptional and brilliance is almost unheard of. But if you lead anything – from a family to a church to […]

Filed Under: Church Boards And Staffs, Leadership, Seriously Troubled Churches

The Revitalization Playbook: Address Your People Problems

May 17, 2023 By Brian Thorstad

In some congregations it’s just one person: one controlling Diotrephes (III John 12), one harmful Alexander (II Timothy 4:14), one willful, rude, thoughtless bully, somebody who wants to be a big fish in a small pond. In other churches, it’s one family which thinks that First Church is their own personal piece of property, like […]

Filed Under: Church Boards And Staffs, Church Health/Revitalization

Three Misunderstood Truths About Servant Leadership

September 27, 2023 By Brian Thorstad

One of the least understood concepts in the Christian world is that of “servant leadership.”  While the term isn’t used in the Bible, the concept certainly is, and it’s very important. The context for the following passage was the “power play” by brothers James and John to secure the top spots in Jesus’ Kingdom cabinet.  […]

Filed Under: Church Boards And Staffs, Leadership

Please, Ask For Help, Early

October 4, 2023 By Brian Thorstad

“There’s no cure for stupidity.” I don’t know who said it first, but a lot of people have said it since.  There are even some takeoffs on the original observation: “There’s no vaccine for stupidity.” “Stupidity is terminal.” “You can’t fix stupid.” “Stupidity is the only universal, capital crime.” I think you get the idea.  […]

Filed Under: Church Boards And Staffs, Church Health/Revitalization, Healthy Pastors

The Year in Review of the Pastor’s Ministry

October 24, 2023 By Brian Thorstad

Brian’s note: My friend, Dr. Randy M. Keeley, creator of my favorite church health evaluation, the Ministry Mapping Survey, has created this great tool for the oftentimes difficult task of pastoral performance reviews.  It looks like it should lead to some great, in-depth discussions.  You’ll find Dr. Keeley’s bio at www.randywkeeley@weebly.com Dr. Keeley’s email address […]

Filed Under: Church Boards And Staffs, Church Health/Revitalization, Healthy Pastors

The Menu From The Pastor Café

December 6, 2023 By Brian Thorstad

Note: A number of years ago I wrote the Parable of the Headhunter (republished on this blog on November 29, 2023) to help congregational pastor search committees to have realistic expectations as they look for their next solo or senior pastor. The response to the “…Headhunter” was good, but I found that many church members […]

Filed Under: Church Boards And Staffs, Pastoral Search Teams, Pastoral Transitions

Models of Board Member Ministry

March 7, 2024 By Brian Thorstad

Almost every church has some variety of leadership team which meets regularly (or occasionally) to make decisions and help and/or hinder the work of the congregation’s professional staff.  These groups are variously called: the board, the elders, the deacons, the consistory, the session or the council.  The degree of authority which they wield varies greatly.  […]

Filed Under: Church Boards And Staffs, Church Health/Revitalization, Church Structure

Models of Board Member Ministry – Brian’s Notes

March 26, 2024 By Brian Thorstad

Two weeks ago, in a post called, Models of Board Member Ministry, I wrote about the endless variations in expectations and assumptions among incoming board (council, consistory, session, elders, deacons) members. Working through my post – as a group exercise – can be a helpful way to movefrom board confusion, disunity and dysfunction to clarity, […]

Filed Under: Church Boards And Staffs, Church Structure

“Pastor: How’s Your CHURCH Doing?”

November 20, 2024 By Brian Thorstad

I have many conversations with pastors which include this question.  We talk about lots of other things, from illnesses to children to football, and then I invariably get around to the “How’s your CHURCH doing?” question. Some pastors have the privilege of leading churches which are building the Kingdom of Christ with some real God-given […]

Filed Under: Book Reviews, Church Boards And Staffs, Church Health/Revitalization, Seriously Troubled Churches

How To Not Get Fired Next Time

December 5, 2024 By Brian Thorstad

This is going to be a long post.  I know it’s not for everybody but it might be for you, or someone you love, so please read the next paragraph. A couple of weeks ago I read a new post by Thom Rainer, founder and CEO of Church Answers and the author of over 40 […]

Filed Under: Church Boards And Staffs, Church Health/Revitalization, Church Structure, Healthy Pastors, Seriously Troubled Churches

Ending Pastor Abuse

May 6, 2025 By Brian Thorstad

Pastor abuse is a serious problem, but there’s nothing new about it. Old Testament prophets – spokespersons for God – and even Old Testament-era Jewish kings, who were shepherds (“pastors,” in Latin) of God’s people, endured harsh treatment at the hands of those who should have respected them. Mocked, thrown in pits, beaten, stoned and […]

Filed Under: Church Boards And Staffs, Church Health/Revitalization, Healthy Pastors, Seriously Troubled Churches

Why Pastors Should Commit Themselves To “Extended Stays”

May 13, 2025 By Brian Thorstad

Pastoral terms are too short.  The average tenure of three to five years1 is not working well for anyone. There are, of course, no Bible verses that say that this is too short, for the pastorate as we know it today was not yet commonly practiced when the New Testament was completed. So I’m not […]

Filed Under: Church Boards And Staffs, Church Health/Revitalization, Pastoral Transitions

How We Can Do Better With The Coming And Going Of Pastors

July 24, 2025 By Brian Thorstad

I mentioned last week (Six Reasons Why We Struggle With The Coming And Going Of Pastors) that: After twenty centuries of struggling with the coming and going of our pastoral leaders, we’re still not very good at pastoral transitions. The grieving which pastors and church members experience when a beloved pastor moves on is only […]

Filed Under: Church Boards And Staffs, Church Health/Revitalization, Pastoral Transitions

Some Churches Don’t Deserve To Have Pastors

August 6, 2025 By Brian Thorstad

According to Ephesians 4:7-16, the gifted church leaders whom we typically call “pastors” are gifts of the risen, glorified Jesus Christ to his churches.  According to Ephesians 2:10, each of them is a custom-designed “masterpiece” and Acts 20:28 adds that each one has been appointed an overseer by the Holy Spirit himself. The great pastoral […]

Filed Under: Church Boards And Staffs, Church Health/Revitalization, Seriously Troubled Churches

Spiritual Leadership: What It Looks Like In A Church

September 3, 2025 By Brian Thorstad

Spiritual leadership is one of those nice, amorphous, high sounding Christian terms.  It’s rather like the weather: “everybody’s talking about it, but nobody’s doing anything about it.” I don’t think the term is in the Bible, so is there such a thing at all?  And, if so, does it matter? Personally, I think that it […]

Filed Under: Church Boards And Staffs, Church Health/Revitalization, Leadership

The Nitty-Gritty Of Spiritual Leadership In A Church

September 9, 2025 By Brian Thorstad

Last week I wrote about spiritual leadership in the context of the local church. I conceded that the term isn’t in the Bible, but I insisted that the reality is, and I described it by way of Scriptural citations.  Let’s try this for a definition: Spiritual leadership is influencing others to join you in obeying […]

Filed Under: Church Boards And Staffs, Church Health/Revitalization

An Extremely Helpful Leadership Initiative Which Any Pastor Can Take Right Now

December 10, 2025 By Brian Thorstad

“Extremely helpful” – “Really?” “Any pastor” – “I don’t think you know me!” “Right now” – “There must be a catch here!” Let me explain. I’ve been doing a lot of research lately on the subject of pastoral transitions, a.k.a., pastoral succession. It’s a big important subject that most pastors and churches avoid most of […]

Filed Under: Church Boards And Staffs, Pastoral Transitions

Crisis Succession Plan Template For Church Boards

December 10, 2025 By Brian Thorstad

Scripture clearly indicates that no pastor – except Jesus – is a “permanent pastor.”  As many have put it, “every pastor is an interim pastor.” Jesus went to great lengths – throughout the gospels but especially in the “Upper Room Discourse” of John 13-17 – to warn his leaders-in-training that He would be leaving them […]

Filed Under: Church Boards And Staffs, Pastoral Transitions

Seven Ways You Can Trust Your Church Board

December 30, 2025 By Brian Thorstad

Trust in authority figures in the United States is probably at an all-time low.  I can’t prove that, but I doubt that any of you will challenge my assertion. I’ve recently been the victim of a very clever scam artist and a big corporation which seems to not care a whit that it was complicit […]

Filed Under: Church Boards And Staffs, Church Health/Revitalization, Seriously Troubled Churches

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Pastor Josh Brown I wanted to send you an update. We are two years removed from your [comprehensive assessment] visit to us. Half the church is 18-30 years old. We are reaching a wide array of hurting people. The Lord has been kind to us! We have more ministry than we know what to do with. Thanks again for all you did for us!  We have a really great church!
Pastor Josh Brown
Pastor Darin Kirkman
I am so grateful to God for Brian, his ministry, and his friendship. As a result of his assessment and coaching, my church has experienced unmistakable, God-given renewal. We are increasingly living out our church's mission which is to love and glorify God by making disciples of Jesus Christ. This is clearly showing in terms of spiritual depth (i.e. more people are maturing as Christian disciples) and spiritual width (i.e. more people are becoming Christian disciples). Our communication is clearer, our structure is stronger, our leadership development process is better, our facility stewardship is more proactive, and our cultural mindset is now set on eagerly advancing the kingdom of God. I strongly recommend the Church Whisperer to you.

Pastor Darin Kirkman
Elder Jim I wanted to let you know that we have really made some huge changes in the last few months.  We are seeing new people every week and we had a leadership meeting with 23 in attendance. Pastor ______ is doing well and God is doing amazing things.  Thanks for your support, prayers and love for the church!
Elder Jim
A New Church-Goer ...thank you for your messages at [our church] over the past weeks.  I just started going to _____________ while you were there and hadn't been to church in decades.  Your messages kept me coming back...  Thank you for helping me find my way back to God.
A New Church-Goer
Pastor Trey Turner "Brian is an experienced and insightful investigator of church systems.  He has real skill in looking at and diagnosing some areas needing attention.  I benefited greatly from his insight.  As a result, our church is benefiting greatly.  The process Brian took us through gave it the encouragement it needed to begin coming out of the 2020 difficulties.  We will work on the insights Brian provided as a roadmap back to better health."
Pastor Trey Turner
Pastor Greg Lund I've appreciated so much Brian's very practical coaching as he's guided me and the leadership of our church as we've sought to become more effective for God's kingdom. His extensive experience in assisting churches navigate a variety of issues makes him highly qualified to help lead churches through congregational change.
Pastor Greg Lund
Pastor Bruce Jahnke
"Our church is extremely grateful for the insight, adaptability and wisdom Brian so graciously contributed to our needs as we transitioned.  Our pastor transition was from Father to Son, which is by definition, difficult.  Yet Brian was able to foresee issues, feelings and responses with high accuracy.  Brian is personable, yet can direct when he needs to help us be reasonable and vision-oriented."

Pastor Bruce Jahnke
Andy Shanholtz I had the privilege of co leading a pastor’s training group with Brian. Brian’s wealth of knowledge and practical experience was an asset to all of us. The interaction with the group and the relationships built was a great value. I highly recommend having Brian facilitate a group to provide invaluable resources and practical knowledge.
Andy Shanholtz
Pastor Jed Manders
Leadership development within cohorts and peer groups has become increasingly popular, and rightfully so. Being involved in Brian’s leadership training group allowed me the opportunity to work through challenges, develop strengths and learn from both reading and peer development.


Pastor Jed Manders
Pastor Mark Pitroff "I have been so privileged and encouraged to be ministered to by Brian Thorstad as I have served as an Interim Pastor here in central Wisconsin.  He has been such a help and encouragement to me and especially, to this church I have served - Faith Community Church of Waupaca.  His leadership in helping us develop the “Journey Wall” enabled us to look back on the church’s history, the high points as well as the difficulties faced, especially in recent years.   Brian has helped FCC recover from a very difficult time…  Brian was such an encouragement to us, especially in the early months of recovery and preparation."
Pastor Mark Pitroff
Pastor Dan Norman “I enjoyed getting to know the guys in the group [and] I appreciated the thought, mind and spiritual challenges presented… I found many things that I was able to immediately apply, and I am still developing next steps that much of the discussion and training of this class helped to build a foundation for. [The handouts on strategic planning] will continue to be helpful in trying to guide our church to being more intentional. This [was] exactly what I was looking for at exactly the time I needed it.”
Pastor Dan Norman
Pastor Steven Boyd  "This course showed me that I, as a solo pastor, have to do things that don’t come naturally to me and has given me some tools to do the hard things.”
Pastor Steven Boyd 
Pastor Brian Schley “I found value in our meetings and am grateful you invited me to be part of it as a ‘future senior pastor.’ I enjoyed being able to be part of the conversations and glean from those beyond me. Thanks for your leadership with the group and your heart for pastors!”
Pastor Brian Schley
Pastor Todd Sauve "It was a privilege to have been a part of a pastors group led by Brian Thorstad. It's always great to learn from other pastors, and someone needs to provide leadership to make that happen. I'm thankful that Brian was willing to do that, and to share from both his successes and failures in ministry. He's honest, humble, and cares about people."
Pastor Todd Sauve

Brian A. Thorstad

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