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Book Review: Working With Emotional Intelligence

January 8, 2018 By Brian Thorstad

We shouldn’t need this book, but we do. As evangelical Christian leaders, we should have already cornered the market on emotional intelligence. We should be the experts, the icons, the poster children for this important quality. Before going any further, let’s return to author Daniel Goleman’s definition of emotional intelligence – known since the author’s […]

Filed Under: Book Reviews, Church Boards And Staffs, Healthy Pastors, Leadership, Seriously Troubled Churches

Six Evenings When Boards Are At Their Best

August 13, 2016 By Brian Thorstad

I’ve been through a lot with boards. I’m sure it’s also true that boards have been through a lot with me. They remind me of the old saying that “you can’t live with ‘em and you can’t live without ‘em.” However frustrated we may become with boards, it’s pretty clear from Scripture that God intended […]

Filed Under: Church Boards And Staffs, Church Health/Revitalization, Seriously Troubled Churches

Three More Evenings When Boards Are At Their Best

August 24, 2016 By Brian Thorstad

In spite of all the snide remarks, jokes and complaints we pastors make about church boards, in the last analysis, most of us know that they are necessary. No, not a necessary evil, just necessary. “What’s the definition of a board?” “Dead wood.” What’s the other definition of a board?  “A group of highly competent […]

Filed Under: Church Boards And Staffs, Church Health/Revitalization, Seriously Troubled Churches

Models for Elder Ministry

April 5, 2015 By Brian Thorstad

There are many models for how elders "do" their work and what is expected of them. This tool is for pastors and elders to work through together.  It will help you talk through your different understandings and come to agreement on what kind of elder meetings and expectations you want to have.    Download Elder […]

Filed Under: Church Boards And Staffs, Church Structure, Leadership

Elders And Congregationalism: Seven Ways To Make It Work

December 2, 2021 By Brian Thorstad

As a seminary student I was taught that there were three types of local church governance (“ways in which decisions are made,” is a good way to explain it): Episcopalian – From the Greek word, episcopos (An overseer or manager as in Acts 20:28). This is church government from the top down, as in the […]

Filed Under: Church Boards And Staffs, Church Health/Revitalization

Nickels And Noses: Better Ways To Measure Church Effectiveness

December 16, 2021 By Brian Thorstad

Are we really getting anywhere?  Are we actually making disciples, or just going through the motions, doing what we’ve always done while getting what we’ve always gotten? These are hard but important questions for church leaders to ask. I’m assuming that you agree with me that the church’s #1 “job,” its mission, is to make […]

Filed Under: Church Boards And Staffs, Church Health/Revitalization, Disciple Making

The Pastor As A “Player’s Coach”

January 5, 2022 By Brian Thorstad

I’ve really been enjoying football lately. The fact that I’m from Wisconsin probably has something to do with this, but I promise that I won’t say anything more about that. But Sunday evening, a couple of broadcasters were singing the praises of Matt LaFleur as a “player’s coach.”  They went on to describe a player’s […]

Filed Under: Church Boards And Staffs, Church Structure

Keeping The Band Together: Maintaining Unity As Your Church Grows

April 13, 2022 By Brian Thorstad

Would that every church leadership team would be faced with the challenges of significant church growth! A pastor who is dealing with that happy situation put this question to me: “I love the unity we have in our church right now.  How can we maintain it as we continue to grow?”  Again: wouldn’t it be […]

Filed Under: Church Boards And Staffs, Church Health/Revitalization, Leadership

Seven Marks Of The Closed-System Church

May 6, 2022 By Brian Thorstad

Let’s get right to it. In the business world, a closed-system at the leadership level means that the senior leaders are listening to themselves and each other, but to no one else.  Those in production are shut out of the decision-making process, as are the front-line workers, as are the customers. These companies go from […]

Filed Under: Church Boards And Staffs, Healthy Pastors, Leadership

The Pastor’s Salary: An Alternative View

May 25, 2022 By Brian Thorstad

Note: My thoughts below relate to Senior or “solo” (the only one the church has) pastors. Another note: This is a hard subject for pastors to talk about.  Now that I’m no longer a pastor of a congregation, I can share my thoughts on the subject freely. My viewpoint is quite different from that of […]

Filed Under: Church Boards And Staffs, Healthy Pastors

How Fast Can My Church Change?  Three More Factors

June 15, 2022 By Brian Thorstad

Last week I wrote about a happy question put to me by the pastor of a growing church: “How fast can my church change?” I noted that there’s probably no simple answer available, but I noted several factors, which, considered together, should help a leadership team determine how fast their church can change. BTW: The […]

Filed Under: Church Boards And Staffs, Church Health/Revitalization, Healthy Pastors, Leadership

Seven Ways Board Members Can Make A Big Difference

June 29, 2022 By Brian Thorstad

Board members get picked on a lot: Q – “What’s the definition of a board?  A – “Dead wood.” “A camel is a horse put together by a board (or a committee).” “A board is a group of highly competent people who get together once a month and act like complete idiots.” But in truth, […]

Filed Under: Church Boards And Staffs

“Our Pastor Just Went Away Mad”

July 13, 2022 By Brian Thorstad

I’m sorry to say that I have heard these very words from the leaders of more than one congregation, sometimes followed by the question: “Now what?” This should almost never happen of course.  Pastors, of all people, should know how to – as the old saying has it – “just go away,” instead of going […]

Filed Under: Church Boards And Staffs, Pastoral Transitions, Seriously Troubled Churches

Surviving Those “No-Win” Pastoral Situations

July 28, 2022 By Brian Thorstad

I imagine that people in other professions also experience “no-win” situations.  It just so happens that, having been a pastor for many years, and working with many of them now in  coaching and consulting relationships, I’m tuned in to the dilemmas in which the leaders of churches sometimes find themselves. Such as: A beloved staff […]

Filed Under: Church Boards And Staffs, Church Health/Revitalization, Healthy Pastors, Leadership, Seriously Troubled Churches

Surviving Those No-Win Pastoral Situations, Part Two

August 3, 2022 By Brian Thorstad

“I am greatly encouraged.  In all our troubles, my joy knows no bounds.”                                                                                     […]

Filed Under: Church Boards And Staffs, Consulting & Assessments, Healthy Pastors, Leadership, Seriously Troubled Churches

Four Ways To Reform Your Killer Committees

August 31, 2022 By Brian Thorstad

Criminal justice experts debate whether those guilty of homicide can be reformed. Conservatives tend to say “no,” liberals tend to say “yes,” and Christians often say that since regeneration transforms the worst of us into new individuals, that fact should at least be taken into consideration by parole boards. But that’s not my area of […]

Filed Under: Church Boards And Staffs, Church Health/Revitalization, Church Structure, Strategic Planning

Full Disclosure Vs. No Disclosure: Part Two

October 4, 2022 By Brian Thorstad

Last week I wrote about the conundrum of what to tell a congregation when a staff member has resigned or been dismissed under less-than-ideal conditions. We explored the options of: Full disclosure – Telling a congregation the gory details of the departed staff member’s failures, or No disclosure – Saying nothing publicly about the departure, […]

Filed Under: Church Boards And Staffs, Church Health/Revitalization, Pastoral Transitions

The Ill-Fitting Staff Member: How Does This Happen?

October 13, 2022 By Brian Thorstad

Like an ill-fitting pair of shoes, ill-fitting staff members make for painful experiences for both the staff members themselves as well as the churches they serve.  It’s not easy to address these situations, but it’s important that we face the facts and get these individuals re-trained or re-deployed. Today’s post will be the first of […]

Filed Under: Church Boards And Staffs, Church Health/Revitalization, Pastoral Transitions

The Ill-Fitting Staff Member: Four Possible Solutions

October 19, 2022 By Brian Thorstad

“It was he [the risen Christ] who gave some to be apostles, some to be prophets, some to be evangelists and some to be pastors and teachers…”  Ephesians 4:11 “…speaking the truth in love, we will in all things grow up into him who is the Head, that is, Christ.”           […]

Filed Under: Church Boards And Staffs, Church Health/Revitalization, Pastoral Transitions

The Ill-Fitting Staff Member: The Best Solution For Many Situations

October 26, 2022 By Brian Thorstad

“A change will do you good” From the song by Sheryl Suzanne Crow, Sheryl Crow, Jeffrey Trott and Brian Mcleod  “…dig up your unplowed ground…” From Jeremiah 4:3 and Hosea 10:12 I’ve written two posts now on the subject of ill-fitting staff members: church employees who – however gifted and dedicated – never were or […]

Filed Under: Church Boards And Staffs, Church Health/Revitalization, Pastoral Transitions

Pastors And Churches: Prepare Your Board For The Future

November 10, 2022 By Brian Thorstad

“…men of Issachar, who understood the times and knew what Israel should do-“ I Chronicles 12:32 “Brothers, choose seven men from among you who are known to be full of the Spirit and wisdom.  We will turn this responsibility over to them.” Acts 6:3 Nobody wants to prepare for a crisis.  It’s a lot of […]

Filed Under: Church Boards And Staffs, Church Health/Revitalization, Church Structure

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Pastor Josh Brown I wanted to send you an update. We are two years removed from your [comprehensive assessment] visit to us. Half the church is 18-30 years old. We are reaching a wide array of hurting people. The Lord has been kind to us! We have more ministry than we know what to do with. Thanks again for all you did for us!  We have a really great church!
Pastor Josh Brown
Pastor Darin Kirkman
I am so grateful to God for Brian, his ministry, and his friendship. As a result of his assessment and coaching, my church has experienced unmistakable, God-given renewal. We are increasingly living out our church's mission which is to love and glorify God by making disciples of Jesus Christ. This is clearly showing in terms of spiritual depth (i.e. more people are maturing as Christian disciples) and spiritual width (i.e. more people are becoming Christian disciples). Our communication is clearer, our structure is stronger, our leadership development process is better, our facility stewardship is more proactive, and our cultural mindset is now set on eagerly advancing the kingdom of God. I strongly recommend the Church Whisperer to you.

Pastor Darin Kirkman
Elder Jim I wanted to let you know that we have really made some huge changes in the last few months.  We are seeing new people every week and we had a leadership meeting with 23 in attendance. Pastor ______ is doing well and God is doing amazing things.  Thanks for your support, prayers and love for the church!
Elder Jim
A New Church-Goer ...thank you for your messages at [our church] over the past weeks.  I just started going to _____________ while you were there and hadn't been to church in decades.  Your messages kept me coming back...  Thank you for helping me find my way back to God.
A New Church-Goer
Pastor Trey Turner "Brian is an experienced and insightful investigator of church systems.  He has real skill in looking at and diagnosing some areas needing attention.  I benefited greatly from his insight.  As a result, our church is benefiting greatly.  The process Brian took us through gave it the encouragement it needed to begin coming out of the 2020 difficulties.  We will work on the insights Brian provided as a roadmap back to better health."
Pastor Trey Turner
Pastor Greg Lund I've appreciated so much Brian's very practical coaching as he's guided me and the leadership of our church as we've sought to become more effective for God's kingdom. His extensive experience in assisting churches navigate a variety of issues makes him highly qualified to help lead churches through congregational change.
Pastor Greg Lund
Pastor Bruce Jahnke
"Our church is extremely grateful for the insight, adaptability and wisdom Brian so graciously contributed to our needs as we transitioned.  Our pastor transition was from Father to Son, which is by definition, difficult.  Yet Brian was able to foresee issues, feelings and responses with high accuracy.  Brian is personable, yet can direct when he needs to help us be reasonable and vision-oriented."

Pastor Bruce Jahnke
Andy Shanholtz I had the privilege of co leading a pastor’s training group with Brian. Brian’s wealth of knowledge and practical experience was an asset to all of us. The interaction with the group and the relationships built was a great value. I highly recommend having Brian facilitate a group to provide invaluable resources and practical knowledge.
Andy Shanholtz
Pastor Jed Manders
Leadership development within cohorts and peer groups has become increasingly popular, and rightfully so. Being involved in Brian’s leadership training group allowed me the opportunity to work through challenges, develop strengths and learn from both reading and peer development.


Pastor Jed Manders
Pastor Mark Pitroff "I have been so privileged and encouraged to be ministered to by Brian Thorstad as I have served as an Interim Pastor here in central Wisconsin.  He has been such a help and encouragement to me and especially, to this church I have served - Faith Community Church of Waupaca.  His leadership in helping us develop the “Journey Wall” enabled us to look back on the church’s history, the high points as well as the difficulties faced, especially in recent years.   Brian has helped FCC recover from a very difficult time…  Brian was such an encouragement to us, especially in the early months of recovery and preparation."
Pastor Mark Pitroff
Pastor Dan Norman “I enjoyed getting to know the guys in the group [and] I appreciated the thought, mind and spiritual challenges presented… I found many things that I was able to immediately apply, and I am still developing next steps that much of the discussion and training of this class helped to build a foundation for. [The handouts on strategic planning] will continue to be helpful in trying to guide our church to being more intentional. This [was] exactly what I was looking for at exactly the time I needed it.”
Pastor Dan Norman
Pastor Steven Boyd  "This course showed me that I, as a solo pastor, have to do things that don’t come naturally to me and has given me some tools to do the hard things.”
Pastor Steven Boyd 
Pastor Brian Schley “I found value in our meetings and am grateful you invited me to be part of it as a ‘future senior pastor.’ I enjoyed being able to be part of the conversations and glean from those beyond me. Thanks for your leadership with the group and your heart for pastors!”
Pastor Brian Schley
Pastor Todd Sauve "It was a privilege to have been a part of a pastors group led by Brian Thorstad. It's always great to learn from other pastors, and someone needs to provide leadership to make that happen. I'm thankful that Brian was willing to do that, and to share from both his successes and failures in ministry. He's honest, humble, and cares about people."
Pastor Todd Sauve

Brian A. Thorstad

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