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Full Disclosure Vs. No Disclosure: Part Two

October 4, 2022 By Brian Thorstad

Last week I wrote about the conundrum of what to tell a congregation when a staff member has resigned or been dismissed under less-than-ideal conditions. We explored the options of: Full disclosure – Telling a congregation the gory details of the departed staff member’s failures, or No disclosure – Saying nothing publicly about the departure, […]

Filed Under: Church Boards And Staffs, Church Health/Revitalization, Pastoral Transitions

The Ill-Fitting Staff Member: How Does This Happen?

October 13, 2022 By Brian Thorstad

Like an ill-fitting pair of shoes, ill-fitting staff members make for painful experiences for both the staff members themselves as well as the churches they serve.  It’s not easy to address these situations, but it’s important that we face the facts and get these individuals re-trained or re-deployed. Today’s post will be the first of […]

Filed Under: Church Boards And Staffs, Church Health/Revitalization, Pastoral Transitions

The Ill-Fitting Staff Member: Four Possible Solutions

October 19, 2022 By Brian Thorstad

“It was he [the risen Christ] who gave some to be apostles, some to be prophets, some to be evangelists and some to be pastors and teachers…”  Ephesians 4:11 “…speaking the truth in love, we will in all things grow up into him who is the Head, that is, Christ.”           […]

Filed Under: Church Boards And Staffs, Church Health/Revitalization, Pastoral Transitions

The Ill-Fitting Staff Member: The Best Solution For Many Situations

October 26, 2022 By Brian Thorstad

“A change will do you good” From the song by Sheryl Suzanne Crow, Sheryl Crow, Jeffrey Trott and Brian Mcleod  “…dig up your unplowed ground…” From Jeremiah 4:3 and Hosea 10:12 I’ve written two posts now on the subject of ill-fitting staff members: church employees who – however gifted and dedicated – never were or […]

Filed Under: Church Boards And Staffs, Church Health/Revitalization, Pastoral Transitions

The Menu From The Pastor Café

December 6, 2023 By Brian Thorstad

Note: A number of years ago I wrote the Parable of the Headhunter (republished on this blog on November 29, 2023) to help congregational pastor search committees to have realistic expectations as they look for their next solo or senior pastor. The response to the “…Headhunter” was good, but I found that many church members […]

Filed Under: Church Boards And Staffs, Pastoral Search Teams, Pastoral Transitions

The Menu From The Pastor Café, Part Two

December 13, 2023 By Brian Thorstad

“You can’t always get what you want. But if you try sometime, you’ll find, you get what you need.” The Rolling Stones Last week I began describing a tool that I developed a number of years ago to help pastoral search committees come to grips with what I term, “pastoral humanity,” or “pastoral limitations.” No […]

Filed Under: Pastoral Search Teams, Pastoral Transitions

Internships: An Old Practice Getting A New Look

February 28, 2024 By Brian Thorstad

I’m excited to see a growing interest in the practice of churches employing interns: recent college or seminary graduates – or even their own budding “home grown” church members – to short-term opportunities to serve and grow. In my childhood in a Lutheran church, we typically had an intern on staff: a young man, right […]

Filed Under: Church Health/Revitalization, Pastoral Transitions

Lame Ducks Can Still Fly – Twelve Projects Retiring Pastors Can Work On

January 23, 2025 By Brian Thorstad

There’s something happening in a church near you: the pastor is moving toward retirement.  I’m told that the average age of pastors in America has risen to about sixty. While many pastors continue on in full-time ministry way past the typical retirement age of sixty-five, pastors at sixty are usually at least thinking about it. […]

Filed Under: Church Health/Revitalization, Healthy Pastors, Pastoral Transitions

Twenty Ways To Redeem Your Pastoral Retirement

January 29, 2025 By Brian Thorstad

Like finally reaching Wally World and finding it decrepit and closed, retirement is a profound disappointment to so many hard-working people who were led to see it as the exciting destination at the end of their labors. I was young and naïve when I heard that my Uncle Fred had just retired and was driving […]

Filed Under: Healthy Pastors, Pastoral Transitions

Thirteen Challenges For The Retiring Pastor

February 20, 2025 By Brian Thorstad

“I feel like a man without a country” – Recently retired pastor I’ve been writing about the challenges faced by soon-to-retire or newly retired pastors. Here’s a slightly amended paragraph from my posts: Lame Ducks Can Still Fly: Twelve Projects Retiring Pastors Can Work On and Twenty Ways To Redeem Your Pastoral Retirement. No other […]

Filed Under: Healthy Pastors, Pastoral Transitions

15 Ways To Solve Our Pastor Shortage, Part One

March 25, 2025 By Brian Thorstad

The pastor shortage has become a serious matter in the evangelical world.  A friend just told me that in his region of his evangelical (“Bible-believing”) denomination they will be losing one third of their pastors within the next few months.  One third! My own thoughts about how we got to this point will become apparent […]

Filed Under: Healthy Pastors, Pastoral Transitions

15 Ways To Solve Our Pastor Shortage, Part Two

April 2, 2025 By Brian Thorstad

The idea of a “pastor shortage” is a perplexing and troubling concept for us evangelicals.  We don’t mind the idea of a pastor shortage among the other varieties of Christians; after all, they’re wrong (to varying degrees) and deserve to have pastor shortages!  But it shouldn’t be happening in our camp. And I agree.  It […]

Filed Under: Church Health/Revitalization, Pastoral Transitions

Twenty Ways (15 wasn’t enough) To Solve Our Pastor Shortage, Part Three

April 9, 2025 By Brian Thorstad

For the past two weeks (see 15 Ways To Solve Our Pastor Shortage, Part One and 15 Ways To Solve Our Pastor Shortage, Part Two) I’ve been bemoaning our evangelical pastor shortage.  Like most of my readers, I didn’t much care about theologically liberal churches suffering their pastor shortage, but now that it’s closer to […]

Filed Under: Church Health/Revitalization, Pastoral Transitions

Twenty Ways (15 wasn’t enough) To Solve Our Pastor Shortage, Conclusion

April 17, 2025 By Brian Thorstad

Over the past three weeks I’ve shared fourteen ways in which we might move towards solving our pastor shortage in the evangelical world. While I’ve done some bemoaning of our situation, your responses have been encouraging.  I have not felt like a “voice crying in the wilderness.” I’ve found that many of you share my […]

Filed Under: Church Health/Revitalization, Pastoral Transitions

Why Pastors Should Commit Themselves To “Extended Stays”

May 13, 2025 By Brian Thorstad

Pastoral terms are too short.  The average tenure of three to five years1 is not working well for anyone. There are, of course, no Bible verses that say that this is too short, for the pastorate as we know it today was not yet commonly practiced when the New Testament was completed. So I’m not […]

Filed Under: Church Boards And Staffs, Church Health/Revitalization, Pastoral Transitions

Ten Temptations Of The Departing Pastor

July 2, 2025 By Brian Thorstad

I wish this post was a short one: “Two Temptations Of The Departing Pastor,” or something like that. In truth, departing pastors have all sorts of temptations.  All sorts. I’m going to dive right into my subject, and you’ll see what I mean.  These are not exclusive to pastors who are leaving in disgrace or […]

Filed Under: Healthy Pastors, Pastoral Transitions

The Last Temptation Of “Pastor Last”

July 10, 2025 By Brian Thorstad

Years ago, LEADERSHIP Magazine published a cartoon which depicted a grumpy looking pastor asking a colleague, “Ever have one of those days when you just HAVE TO rebuke someone?” Many pastors experience “one of those days” just after they’ve announced their resignation.  They feel like they have to rebuke their church’s board, staff or maybe […]

Filed Under: Healthy Pastors, Pastoral Transitions

Six Reasons Why We Struggle With The Coming And Going Of Pastors

July 18, 2025 By Brian Thorstad

The recent home-going of Dr. John MacArthur, senior pastor of Grace Community Church of Sun Valley, California, has reminded us of a perennial challenge which I call the coming and going of pastors. After twenty centuries of struggling with the coming and going of our pastoral leaders, we’re still not very good at pastoral transitions. […]

Filed Under: Church Health/Revitalization, Pastoral Transitions

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Pastor Darin Kirkman
I am so grateful to God for Brian, his ministry, and his friendship. As a result of his assessment and coaching, my church has experienced unmistakable, God-given renewal. We are increasingly living out our church's mission which is to love and glorify God by making disciples of Jesus Christ. This is clearly showing in terms of spiritual depth (i.e. more people are maturing as Christian disciples) and spiritual width (i.e. more people are becoming Christian disciples). Our communication is clearer, our structure is stronger, our leadership development process is better, our facility stewardship is more proactive, and our cultural mindset is now set on eagerly advancing the kingdom of God. I strongly recommend the Church Whisperer to you.

Pastor Darin Kirkman
Elder Jim I wanted to let you know that we have really made some huge changes in the last few months.  We are seeing new people every week and we had a leadership meeting with 23 in attendance. Pastor ______ is doing well and God is doing amazing things.  Thanks for your support, prayers and love for the church!
Elder Jim
A New Church-Goer ...thank you for your messages at [our church] over the past weeks.  I just started going to _____________ while you were there and hadn't been to church in decades.  Your messages kept me coming back...  Thank you for helping me find my way back to God.
A New Church-Goer
Pastor Trey Turner "Brian is an experienced and insightful investigator of church systems.  He has real skill in looking at and diagnosing some areas needing attention.  I benefited greatly from his insight.  As a result, our church is benefiting greatly.  The process Brian took us through gave it the encouragement it needed to begin coming out of the 2020 difficulties.  We will work on the insights Brian provided as a roadmap back to better health."
Pastor Trey Turner
Pastor Greg Lund I've appreciated so much Brian's very practical coaching as he's guided me and the leadership of our church as we've sought to become more effective for God's kingdom. His extensive experience in assisting churches navigate a variety of issues makes him highly qualified to help lead churches through congregational change.
Pastor Greg Lund
Pastor Bruce Jahnke
"Our church is extremely grateful for the insight, adaptability and wisdom Brian so graciously contributed to our needs as we transitioned.  Our pastor transition was from Father to Son, which is by definition, difficult.  Yet Brian was able to foresee issues, feelings and responses with high accuracy.  Brian is personable, yet can direct when he needs to help us be reasonable and vision-oriented."

Pastor Bruce Jahnke
Andy Shanholtz I had the privilege of co leading a pastor’s training group with Brian. Brian’s wealth of knowledge and practical experience was an asset to all of us. The interaction with the group and the relationships built was a great value. I highly recommend having Brian facilitate a group to provide invaluable resources and practical knowledge.
Andy Shanholtz
Pastor Jed Manders
Leadership development within cohorts and peer groups has become increasingly popular, and rightfully so. Being involved in Brian’s leadership training group allowed me the opportunity to work through challenges, develop strengths and learn from both reading and peer development.


Pastor Jed Manders
Pastor Mark Pitroff "I have been so privileged and encouraged to be ministered to by Brian Thorstad as I have served as an Interim Pastor here in central Wisconsin.  He has been such a help and encouragement to me and especially, to this church I have served - Faith Community Church of Waupaca.  His leadership in helping us develop the “Journey Wall” enabled us to look back on the church’s history, the high points as well as the difficulties faced, especially in recent years.   Brian has helped FCC recover from a very difficult time…  Brian was such an encouragement to us, especially in the early months of recovery and preparation."
Pastor Mark Pitroff
Pastor Dan Norman “I enjoyed getting to know the guys in the group [and] I appreciated the thought, mind and spiritual challenges presented… I found many things that I was able to immediately apply, and I am still developing next steps that much of the discussion and training of this class helped to build a foundation for. [The handouts on strategic planning] will continue to be helpful in trying to guide our church to being more intentional. This [was] exactly what I was looking for at exactly the time I needed it.”
Pastor Dan Norman
Pastor Steven Boyd  "This course showed me that I, as a solo pastor, have to do things that don’t come naturally to me and has given me some tools to do the hard things.”
Pastor Steven Boyd 
Pastor Brian Schley “I found value in our meetings and am grateful you invited me to be part of it as a ‘future senior pastor.’ I enjoyed being able to be part of the conversations and glean from those beyond me. Thanks for your leadership with the group and your heart for pastors!”
Pastor Brian Schley
Pastor Todd Sauve "It was a privilege to have been a part of a pastors group led by Brian Thorstad. It's always great to learn from other pastors, and someone needs to provide leadership to make that happen. I'm thankful that Brian was willing to do that, and to share from both his successes and failures in ministry. He's honest, humble, and cares about people."
Pastor Todd Sauve

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