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Three More Of The Devil’s Plans For Your Church

January 24, 2024 By Brian Thorstad

“He must not be a recent convert, or he may become conceited and fall under the same judgment as the devil. 7He must also have a good reputation with outsiders, so that he will not fall into disgrace and into the devil’s trap.”  I Timothy 3:6,7  “Anyone you forgive, I also forgive. And what I […]

Filed Under: Church Health/Revitalization

Even More Of The Devil’s Plans For Your Church

January 31, 2024 By Brian Thorstad

“He must not be a recent convert, or he may become conceited and fall under the same judgment as the devil. He must also have a good reputation with outsiders, so that he will not fall into disgrace and into the devil’s trap.”  I Timothy 3:6,7 “Anyone you forgive, I also forgive. And what I […]

Filed Under: Church Health/Revitalization, Seriously Troubled Churches

Seven Reasons To Not Publicly Criticize Your Pastor

February 6, 2024 By Brian Thorstad

Here’s something that never ceases to amaze me.  Church members sit in their favorite spot in the worship service on Sunday morning.  They pray, praise, sing, listen and, through the words of hymns, creeds, prayers and covenants, they commit themselves anew to following Jesus and loving the brethren. The service ends, there’s a ten-minute break, […]

Filed Under: Church Health/Revitalization, Church Structure, Seriously Troubled Churches

Crazy Love: The Family Affection God Is Looking For In Churches

February 15, 2024 By Brian Thorstad

There’s something a little crazy about family love.  My wife Donna and I listen to podcasts about missing people.  No matter how far apart the family members were living when the individual disappeared, no matter how many difficulties they had had in getting along during their formative years, no matter how many family challenges they […]

Filed Under: Church Health/Revitalization

When The News Is Terrible

February 20, 2024 By Brian Thorstad

Back in 2022, I wrote some posts which touched on one of my favorite Old Testament prophets, the sensitive, justice-loving, heartsick, singer-songwriter (I think), Habakkuk. (He mentions his stringed instruments in chapter three, verse nineteen.) The writer of the fifth to the last book in our Old Testament was a contemporary of Jeremiah, and a […]

Filed Under: Church Health/Revitalization, Theology

Internships: An Old Practice Getting A New Look

February 28, 2024 By Brian Thorstad

I’m excited to see a growing interest in the practice of churches employing interns: recent college or seminary graduates – or even their own budding “home grown” church members – to short-term opportunities to serve and grow. In my childhood in a Lutheran church, we typically had an intern on staff: a young man, right […]

Filed Under: Church Health/Revitalization, Pastoral Transitions

Models of Board Member Ministry

March 7, 2024 By Brian Thorstad

Almost every church has some variety of leadership team which meets regularly (or occasionally) to make decisions and help and/or hinder the work of the congregation’s professional staff.  These groups are variously called: the board, the elders, the deacons, the consistory, the session or the council.  The degree of authority which they wield varies greatly.  […]

Filed Under: Church Boards And Staffs, Church Health/Revitalization, Church Structure

“Pastor: How’s Your CHURCH Doing?”

November 20, 2024 By Brian Thorstad

I have many conversations with pastors which include this question.  We talk about lots of other things, from illnesses to children to football, and then I invariably get around to the “How’s your CHURCH doing?” question. Some pastors have the privilege of leading churches which are building the Kingdom of Christ with some real God-given […]

Filed Under: Book Reviews, Church Boards And Staffs, Church Health/Revitalization, Seriously Troubled Churches

How To Not Get Fired Next Time

December 5, 2024 By Brian Thorstad

This is going to be a long post.  I know it’s not for everybody but it might be for you, or someone you love, so please read the next paragraph. A couple of weeks ago I read a new post by Thom Rainer, founder and CEO of Church Answers and the author of over 40 […]

Filed Under: Church Boards And Staffs, Church Health/Revitalization, Church Structure, Healthy Pastors, Seriously Troubled Churches

Exposing Ten Church Revitalization Myths, Part One

December 18, 2024 By Brian Thorstad

rēˌvīdələˈzāSH(ə)n,rēˌvīdlˌīˈzāSH(ə)n Noun – The action of imbuing something with new life and vitality. “The city has seen revitalization of its economy” Thanks to Mr. Google for the above. The idea of church revitalization assumes that at some point in time the congregation in question was teeming with life. While this is clearly not the case with every church, […]

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Exposing Ten Church Revitalization Myths, Part Two

December 26, 2024 By Brian Thorstad

In my last post I launched into exposing ten myths about the revitalization of churches.  I began with this “googled” definition: Revitalization is the “action of imbuing something with new life and vitality”. In light of this, admittedly, secular definition, instead of asking if every church needs revitalization, maybe we should be asking if any church doesn’t need […]

Filed Under: Church Health/Revitalization

Loving Your Enemies, In Church

January 14, 2025 By Brian Thorstad

“You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ But I tell you: Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, that you may be sons of your Father in heaven.” Matthew 5:43-45a We all know this simple command.  It’s challenging enough when we think in terms of […]

Filed Under: Church Health/Revitalization, Seriously Troubled Churches

Lame Ducks Can Still Fly – Twelve Projects Retiring Pastors Can Work On

January 23, 2025 By Brian Thorstad

There’s something happening in a church near you: the pastor is moving toward retirement.  I’m told that the average age of pastors in America has risen to about sixty. While many pastors continue on in full-time ministry way past the typical retirement age of sixty-five, pastors at sixty are usually at least thinking about it. […]

Filed Under: Church Health/Revitalization, Healthy Pastors, Pastoral Transitions

Is The Disciple-Making Movement The Latest Irritating Trend?

February 4, 2025 By Brian Thorstad

Those of you who are devoted to the current disciple-making movement probably find my title to be absurd, and I suppose it is. Just to clarify: The disciple-making movement says simply that we American evangelicals need to “fix” our discipleship paradigm, our idea of what a mature or maturing devoted follower of Jesus looks like. […]

Filed Under: Church Health/Revitalization, Healthy Pastors

Is Church Revitalization A Scary New Concept?

February 12, 2025 By Brian Thorstad

Last week I wrote about disciple-making as an irritating new trend. No, I don’t think it’s an irritating new trend; I think it’s a wonderful, old trend. But I’m well aware of the fact that many church people have a serious case of “new idea fatigue.” They are weary and leery of new pastors with […]

Filed Under: Church Health/Revitalization, Consulting & Assessments

A Special Offer For Hungry Pastors

February 26, 2025 By Brian Thorstad

“I am the LORD your God, who brought you up out of Egypt. Open your mouth wide and I will fill it”           Psalm 81:10 Sorry pastor, I’m not offering restaurant gift cards today, but I want to talk to you about your hunger for a revitalized church and I do […]

Filed Under: Church Health/Revitalization, Healthy Pastors

Spatial Disorientation – Pastor: Do You Know The Condition Of Your Pastorate?

March 5, 2025 By Brian Thorstad

My wife and I have been learning about spatial disorientation by listening to airline disaster podcasts.  The phenomenon occurs when pilots, unable to see the ground because of darkness or bad weather (pilots call it “goo”), become unable to determine their aircraft’s true position relative to the ground. Their senses tell them, for instance, that […]

Filed Under: Church Health/Revitalization, Healthy Pastors, Seriously Troubled Churches

A Simple Secret For Better Evangelism

March 17, 2025 By Brian Thorstad

This will probably be the simplest post I’ve written for a long time.  Not “simplistic” I hope, but simple, and maybe even short. I was talking to a pastor a few weeks ago about his excellent church. And it really is. It’s united, growing spiritually, growing by way of new converts to Christ and joyful. […]

Filed Under: Church Health/Revitalization, Disciple Making, Healthy Pastors

15 Ways To Solve Our Pastor Shortage, Part Two

April 2, 2025 By Brian Thorstad

The idea of a “pastor shortage” is a perplexing and troubling concept for us evangelicals.  We don’t mind the idea of a pastor shortage among the other varieties of Christians; after all, they’re wrong (to varying degrees) and deserve to have pastor shortages!  But it shouldn’t be happening in our camp. And I agree.  It […]

Filed Under: Church Health/Revitalization, Pastoral Transitions

Twenty Ways (15 wasn’t enough) To Solve Our Pastor Shortage, Part Three

April 9, 2025 By Brian Thorstad

For the past two weeks (see 15 Ways To Solve Our Pastor Shortage, Part One and 15 Ways To Solve Our Pastor Shortage, Part Two) I’ve been bemoaning our evangelical pastor shortage.  Like most of my readers, I didn’t much care about theologically liberal churches suffering their pastor shortage, but now that it’s closer to […]

Filed Under: Church Health/Revitalization, Pastoral Transitions

Twenty Ways (15 wasn’t enough) To Solve Our Pastor Shortage, Conclusion

April 17, 2025 By Brian Thorstad

Over the past three weeks I’ve shared fourteen ways in which we might move towards solving our pastor shortage in the evangelical world. While I’ve done some bemoaning of our situation, your responses have been encouraging.  I have not felt like a “voice crying in the wilderness.” I’ve found that many of you share my […]

Filed Under: Church Health/Revitalization, Healthy Pastors

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Pastor Josh Brown I wanted to send you an update. We are two years removed from your [comprehensive assessment] visit to us. Half the church is 18-30 years old. We are reaching a wide array of hurting people. The Lord has been kind to us! We have more ministry than we know what to do with. Thanks again for all you did for us!  We have a really great church!
Pastor Josh Brown
Pastor Darin Kirkman
I am so grateful to God for Brian, his ministry, and his friendship. As a result of his assessment and coaching, my church has experienced unmistakable, God-given renewal. We are increasingly living out our church's mission which is to love and glorify God by making disciples of Jesus Christ. This is clearly showing in terms of spiritual depth (i.e. more people are maturing as Christian disciples) and spiritual width (i.e. more people are becoming Christian disciples). Our communication is clearer, our structure is stronger, our leadership development process is better, our facility stewardship is more proactive, and our cultural mindset is now set on eagerly advancing the kingdom of God. I strongly recommend the Church Whisperer to you.

Pastor Darin Kirkman
Elder Jim I wanted to let you know that we have really made some huge changes in the last few months.  We are seeing new people every week and we had a leadership meeting with 23 in attendance. Pastor ______ is doing well and God is doing amazing things.  Thanks for your support, prayers and love for the church!
Elder Jim
A New Church-Goer ...thank you for your messages at [our church] over the past weeks.  I just started going to _____________ while you were there and hadn't been to church in decades.  Your messages kept me coming back...  Thank you for helping me find my way back to God.
A New Church-Goer
Pastor Trey Turner "Brian is an experienced and insightful investigator of church systems.  He has real skill in looking at and diagnosing some areas needing attention.  I benefited greatly from his insight.  As a result, our church is benefiting greatly.  The process Brian took us through gave it the encouragement it needed to begin coming out of the 2020 difficulties.  We will work on the insights Brian provided as a roadmap back to better health."
Pastor Trey Turner
Pastor Greg Lund I've appreciated so much Brian's very practical coaching as he's guided me and the leadership of our church as we've sought to become more effective for God's kingdom. His extensive experience in assisting churches navigate a variety of issues makes him highly qualified to help lead churches through congregational change.
Pastor Greg Lund
Pastor Bruce Jahnke
"Our church is extremely grateful for the insight, adaptability and wisdom Brian so graciously contributed to our needs as we transitioned.  Our pastor transition was from Father to Son, which is by definition, difficult.  Yet Brian was able to foresee issues, feelings and responses with high accuracy.  Brian is personable, yet can direct when he needs to help us be reasonable and vision-oriented."

Pastor Bruce Jahnke
Andy Shanholtz I had the privilege of co leading a pastor’s training group with Brian. Brian’s wealth of knowledge and practical experience was an asset to all of us. The interaction with the group and the relationships built was a great value. I highly recommend having Brian facilitate a group to provide invaluable resources and practical knowledge.
Andy Shanholtz
Pastor Jed Manders
Leadership development within cohorts and peer groups has become increasingly popular, and rightfully so. Being involved in Brian’s leadership training group allowed me the opportunity to work through challenges, develop strengths and learn from both reading and peer development.


Pastor Jed Manders
Pastor Mark Pitroff "I have been so privileged and encouraged to be ministered to by Brian Thorstad as I have served as an Interim Pastor here in central Wisconsin.  He has been such a help and encouragement to me and especially, to this church I have served - Faith Community Church of Waupaca.  His leadership in helping us develop the “Journey Wall” enabled us to look back on the church’s history, the high points as well as the difficulties faced, especially in recent years.   Brian has helped FCC recover from a very difficult time…  Brian was such an encouragement to us, especially in the early months of recovery and preparation."
Pastor Mark Pitroff
Pastor Dan Norman “I enjoyed getting to know the guys in the group [and] I appreciated the thought, mind and spiritual challenges presented… I found many things that I was able to immediately apply, and I am still developing next steps that much of the discussion and training of this class helped to build a foundation for. [The handouts on strategic planning] will continue to be helpful in trying to guide our church to being more intentional. This [was] exactly what I was looking for at exactly the time I needed it.”
Pastor Dan Norman
Pastor Steven Boyd  "This course showed me that I, as a solo pastor, have to do things that don’t come naturally to me and has given me some tools to do the hard things.”
Pastor Steven Boyd 
Pastor Brian Schley “I found value in our meetings and am grateful you invited me to be part of it as a ‘future senior pastor.’ I enjoyed being able to be part of the conversations and glean from those beyond me. Thanks for your leadership with the group and your heart for pastors!”
Pastor Brian Schley
Pastor Todd Sauve "It was a privilege to have been a part of a pastors group led by Brian Thorstad. It's always great to learn from other pastors, and someone needs to provide leadership to make that happen. I'm thankful that Brian was willing to do that, and to share from both his successes and failures in ministry. He's honest, humble, and cares about people."
Pastor Todd Sauve

Brian A. Thorstad

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