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SURVIVING A “Perfect Storm” In A Local Church

November 18, 2025 By Brian Thorstad

Last week I wrote about perfect storms in churches. In meteorology, a perfect storm is a rare event in which a combination of circumstances creates an unusually disastrous weather event. In ecclesiology (churches), a perfect storm occurs when one1 or more conflict scenarios occur, typically in the unhealthy atmosphere (culture or congregational system) of a […]

Filed Under: Church Health/Revitalization, Seriously Troubled Churches

A “Perfect Storm” In A Local Church

November 11, 2025 By Brian Thorstad

Definition: “A perfect storm is a meteorological event aggravated by a rare combination of circumstances… [The term has become] an idiom for a situation where a rare combination of factors creates an unusually disastrous or powerful outcome.” Google search Most of us know the term because of The Perfect Storm movie, based on the 1997, […]

Filed Under: Church Health/Revitalization, Seriously Troubled Churches

Give Your Pastor The Gift Of Reasonable Expectations

November 5, 2025 By Brian Thorstad

Pastor Appreciation Month is already behind us, but the “holiday season” is coming on fast.  Many church members gave their pastors a gift in October, even if it was just their well-wishes.  Others are thinking about what they might give their pastor for Christmas. If that’s you, this post is for you.  If you’re a […]

Filed Under: Church Health/Revitalization, Healthy Pastors

Let’s Invite The Young Into The Greatest Movement Ever

October 31, 2025 By Brian Thorstad

“Son, that’s just the way it is. Some things will never change.” Bruce Hornsby, 1986 Since the assassination of Charlie Kirk there’s been a lot of great discussion about the movement he had begun and how attractive it was, and is – now more than ever – to young people. This has been a great […]

Filed Under: Disciple Making, Theology

Why I’m Becoming A Togetherist

October 21, 2025 By Brian Thorstad

Okay. I know. You’ve never heard of a togetherist and it sounds bad.  Please give me a chance to explain myself. Here’s what I don’t mean: (1) I don’t mean that we should despise the Bible’s commands to separate ourselves from false teachers and false teaching. Here’s a sample of what God’s Word says about […]

Filed Under: Church Health/Revitalization, Theology

Eight Ways We Can Return To Discipleship WITH Disciple-Making

October 9, 2025 By Brian Thorstad

Last week I wrote a post called “Programs, paradigms and presuppositions: Why we’re struggling with disciple-making.”  I began by rejoicing over the “new” disciple-making movement (DM) and how it is seeking to return the American Evangelical church to a version of Christian discipleship (the Christian life) that includes disciple-making as part of the paradigm. I […]

Filed Under: Church Health/Revitalization, Disciple Making

Programs, Paradigms And Presuppositions: Why We’re Struggling With Disciple-Making

October 7, 2025 By Brian Thorstad

Trends come and go.  Some are good and some are…not so good. The disciple-making trend, which can legitimately be called a movement is one of the most encouraging trends I’ve seen for a long time. At its heart, the “new” disciple-making movement (or DM) is a shift back towards an understanding of the Christian life, […]

Filed Under: Church Health/Revitalization, Church Structure, Disciple Making

America’s Favorite Bible Verse: “Judge Not”

October 1, 2025 By Brian Thorstad

Last week I wrote a post about the mistaken idea that “all sins are created equal.” The phrase is all-too-often used by folks who defend their serious, destructive, sinful behaviors by putting them at the level of other people’s minor infractions. At the end of the post I said that “church leaders must deal with […]

Filed Under: Church Health/Revitalization, Theology

Are All Sins Created Equal?

September 25, 2025 By Brian Thorstad

Some of you may be wondering why a guy who writes about church health issues would even be addressing this question. But it really is relevant to church health, which I’ll demonstrate just below and again, at the end of this post. Here’s how this question – which folks have put to me a number […]

Filed Under: Church Health/Revitalization, Theology

Before You Say “WE Do” – Twenty-Five Questions Churches Should Ask Prospective Pastors

September 16, 2025 By Brian Thorstad

A few weeks ago I wrote a post for prospective pastors called, “Before You Say I Do,” inspired by a premarital counseling program that I used in the past. I gave prospective pastors twenty-four questions to get answered before accepting a call to a church. Today’s version is for church boards and/or pastoral search committees. […]

Filed Under: Pastoral Search Teams, Pastoral Transitions

The Nitty-Gritty Of Spiritual Leadership In A Church

September 9, 2025 By Brian Thorstad

Last week I wrote about spiritual leadership in the context of the local church. I conceded that the term isn’t in the Bible, but I insisted that the reality is, and I described it by way of Scriptural citations.  Let’s try this for a definition: Spiritual leadership is influencing others to join you in obeying […]

Filed Under: Church Boards And Staffs, Church Health/Revitalization

Spiritual Leadership: What It Looks Like In A Church

September 3, 2025 By Brian Thorstad

Spiritual leadership is one of those nice, amorphous, high sounding Christian terms.  It’s rather like the weather: “everybody’s talking about it, but nobody’s doing anything about it.” I don’t think the term is in the Bible, so is there such a thing at all?  And, if so, does it matter? Personally, I think that it […]

Filed Under: Church Boards And Staffs, Church Health/Revitalization, Leadership

Before You Say “I Do” – 24 Questions The Prospective Pastor Needs To Have Answered

August 27, 2025 By Brian Thorstad

The original “Before You Say I Do” was a premarital counseling program that I used a number of times. It was very helpful. Today’s Before You Say “I Do” post is a little different.  I’m writing about some of the questions that a prospective pastor needs to ask and get answers to before accepting a […]

Filed Under: Church Health/Revitalization, Pastoral Transitions

“Our pastor’s gone; we got our church back!”

August 20, 2025 By Brian Thorstad

Television’s Art Linkletter used to say that “kids say the darndest things.”  He was right of course, but the same could be said of church members who are being interviewed by interim pastors, denominational leaders or consultants: “Church members say the darndest things!” The first time I heard this phrase I was gob smacked.  I […]

Filed Under: Church Health/Revitalization, Healthy Pastors, Interim Pastoring

Pastors Who Don’t Deserve Churches

August 12, 2025 By Brian Thorstad

Last week I wrote about churches that don’t deserve to have pastors. I’m disheartened that such churches exist, and your responses lead me to think that there are more of these congregations out there than I realized. Sadly, there’s also such a thing as the veteran pastor – or the would-be pastor – who doesn’t […]

Filed Under: Church Health/Revitalization, Healthy Pastors, Seriously Troubled Churches

Some Churches Don’t Deserve To Have Pastors

August 6, 2025 By Brian Thorstad

According to Ephesians 4:7-16, the gifted church leaders whom we typically call “pastors” are gifts of the risen, glorified Jesus Christ to his churches.  According to Ephesians 2:10, each of them is a custom-designed “masterpiece” and Acts 20:28 adds that each one has been appointed an overseer by the Holy Spirit himself. The great pastoral […]

Filed Under: Church Boards And Staffs, Church Health/Revitalization, Seriously Troubled Churches

How We Can Do Better With The Coming And Going Of Pastors

July 24, 2025 By Brian Thorstad

I mentioned last week (Six Reasons Why We Struggle With The Coming And Going Of Pastors) that: After twenty centuries of struggling with the coming and going of our pastoral leaders, we’re still not very good at pastoral transitions. The grieving which pastors and church members experience when a beloved pastor moves on is only […]

Filed Under: Church Boards And Staffs, Church Health/Revitalization, Pastoral Transitions

Six Reasons Why We Struggle With The Coming And Going Of Pastors

July 18, 2025 By Brian Thorstad

The recent home-going of Dr. John MacArthur, senior pastor of Grace Community Church of Sun Valley, California, has reminded us of a perennial challenge which I call the coming and going of pastors. After twenty centuries of struggling with the coming and going of our pastoral leaders, we’re still not very good at pastoral transitions. […]

Filed Under: Church Health/Revitalization, Pastoral Transitions

The Last Temptation Of “Pastor Last”

July 10, 2025 By Brian Thorstad

Years ago, LEADERSHIP Magazine published a cartoon which depicted a grumpy looking pastor asking a colleague, “Ever have one of those days when you just HAVE TO rebuke someone?” Many pastors experience “one of those days” just after they’ve announced their resignation.  They feel like they have to rebuke their church’s board, staff or maybe […]

Filed Under: Healthy Pastors, Pastoral Transitions

Ten Temptations Of The Departing Pastor

July 2, 2025 By Brian Thorstad

I wish this post was a short one: “Two Temptations Of The Departing Pastor,” or something like that. In truth, departing pastors have all sorts of temptations.  All sorts. I’m going to dive right into my subject, and you’ll see what I mean.  These are not exclusive to pastors who are leaving in disgrace or […]

Filed Under: Healthy Pastors, Pastoral Transitions

The Seventh Danger: Vision Frustration

June 25, 2025 By Brian Thorstad

It’s an awful picture isn’t it? The ancient, venerable leader Moses, who had been through so much and was so special to God and so needed by mankind, loses his temper and strikes the rock, a picture of Jesus Christ, with his precious shepherd’s rod, a symbol of both his God-given authority and his God-given […]

Filed Under: Church Health/Revitalization, Healthy Pastors, Leadership

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Testimonials

Pastor Josh Brown I wanted to send you an update. We are two years removed from your [comprehensive assessment] visit to us. Half the church is 18-30 years old. We are reaching a wide array of hurting people. The Lord has been kind to us! We have more ministry than we know what to do with. Thanks again for all you did for us!  We have a really great church!
Pastor Josh Brown
Pastor Darin Kirkman
I am so grateful to God for Brian, his ministry, and his friendship. As a result of his assessment and coaching, my church has experienced unmistakable, God-given renewal. We are increasingly living out our church's mission which is to love and glorify God by making disciples of Jesus Christ. This is clearly showing in terms of spiritual depth (i.e. more people are maturing as Christian disciples) and spiritual width (i.e. more people are becoming Christian disciples). Our communication is clearer, our structure is stronger, our leadership development process is better, our facility stewardship is more proactive, and our cultural mindset is now set on eagerly advancing the kingdom of God. I strongly recommend the Church Whisperer to you.

Pastor Darin Kirkman
Elder Jim I wanted to let you know that we have really made some huge changes in the last few months.  We are seeing new people every week and we had a leadership meeting with 23 in attendance. Pastor ______ is doing well and God is doing amazing things.  Thanks for your support, prayers and love for the church!
Elder Jim
A New Church-Goer ...thank you for your messages at [our church] over the past weeks.  I just started going to _____________ while you were there and hadn't been to church in decades.  Your messages kept me coming back...  Thank you for helping me find my way back to God.
A New Church-Goer
Pastor Trey Turner "Brian is an experienced and insightful investigator of church systems.  He has real skill in looking at and diagnosing some areas needing attention.  I benefited greatly from his insight.  As a result, our church is benefiting greatly.  The process Brian took us through gave it the encouragement it needed to begin coming out of the 2020 difficulties.  We will work on the insights Brian provided as a roadmap back to better health."
Pastor Trey Turner
Pastor Greg Lund I've appreciated so much Brian's very practical coaching as he's guided me and the leadership of our church as we've sought to become more effective for God's kingdom. His extensive experience in assisting churches navigate a variety of issues makes him highly qualified to help lead churches through congregational change.
Pastor Greg Lund
Pastor Bruce Jahnke
"Our church is extremely grateful for the insight, adaptability and wisdom Brian so graciously contributed to our needs as we transitioned.  Our pastor transition was from Father to Son, which is by definition, difficult.  Yet Brian was able to foresee issues, feelings and responses with high accuracy.  Brian is personable, yet can direct when he needs to help us be reasonable and vision-oriented."

Pastor Bruce Jahnke
Andy Shanholtz I had the privilege of co leading a pastor’s training group with Brian. Brian’s wealth of knowledge and practical experience was an asset to all of us. The interaction with the group and the relationships built was a great value. I highly recommend having Brian facilitate a group to provide invaluable resources and practical knowledge.
Andy Shanholtz
Pastor Jed Manders
Leadership development within cohorts and peer groups has become increasingly popular, and rightfully so. Being involved in Brian’s leadership training group allowed me the opportunity to work through challenges, develop strengths and learn from both reading and peer development.


Pastor Jed Manders
Pastor Mark Pitroff "I have been so privileged and encouraged to be ministered to by Brian Thorstad as I have served as an Interim Pastor here in central Wisconsin.  He has been such a help and encouragement to me and especially, to this church I have served - Faith Community Church of Waupaca.  His leadership in helping us develop the “Journey Wall” enabled us to look back on the church’s history, the high points as well as the difficulties faced, especially in recent years.   Brian has helped FCC recover from a very difficult time…  Brian was such an encouragement to us, especially in the early months of recovery and preparation."
Pastor Mark Pitroff
Pastor Dan Norman “I enjoyed getting to know the guys in the group [and] I appreciated the thought, mind and spiritual challenges presented… I found many things that I was able to immediately apply, and I am still developing next steps that much of the discussion and training of this class helped to build a foundation for. [The handouts on strategic planning] will continue to be helpful in trying to guide our church to being more intentional. This [was] exactly what I was looking for at exactly the time I needed it.”
Pastor Dan Norman
Pastor Steven Boyd  "This course showed me that I, as a solo pastor, have to do things that don’t come naturally to me and has given me some tools to do the hard things.”
Pastor Steven Boyd 
Pastor Brian Schley “I found value in our meetings and am grateful you invited me to be part of it as a ‘future senior pastor.’ I enjoyed being able to be part of the conversations and glean from those beyond me. Thanks for your leadership with the group and your heart for pastors!”
Pastor Brian Schley
Pastor Todd Sauve "It was a privilege to have been a part of a pastors group led by Brian Thorstad. It's always great to learn from other pastors, and someone needs to provide leadership to make that happen. I'm thankful that Brian was willing to do that, and to share from both his successes and failures in ministry. He's honest, humble, and cares about people."
Pastor Todd Sauve

Brian A. Thorstad

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