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Book Review: The Externally Focused Quest

March 4, 2017 By Brian Thorstad

The challenge of turning an inwardly focused church into a vibrant, externally focused mission to its community is formidable. It’s no accident then that the same writers who gave us The Externally Focused Church, Eric Swanson and Rick Rusaw, felt led to follow it up with The Externally Focused Quest. It is a quest, and […]

Filed Under: Book Reviews, Church Health/Revitalization, Disciple Making, Leadership

Six Characteristics of Pastors Who Deserve to be Followed

July 25, 2016 By Brian Thorstad

I received some pushback regarding a couple of blog posts I wrote about allowing pastors to lead their churches. I argued that most churches which are actually making devoted followers of Christ out of the raw material of lost people have pastors who are expected to actually lead. Actually leading means that these privileged pastors […]

Filed Under: Healthy Pastors, Leadership

Six Marks Of A Genuinely Loving Pastor/leader

July 15, 2016 By Brian Thorstad

I’ve seen it repeatedly. When church members are surveyed regarding what they want in their church’s next pastor, the attribute most frequently mentioned is “a loving caregiver” or “a loving shepherd.” However we may feel about the level of Christian maturity reflected in these results, this is reality and it’s not lost on pastors. Pastors […]

Filed Under: Church Health/Revitalization, Healthy Pastors, Leadership

The Anesthesia That Makes Church Surgery Possible

July 10, 2016 By Brian Thorstad

I love to use the medical model for church revitalization. It is so blessedly simple. Anybody can remember that the process is going to involve a few weeks of diagnosis, followed by approximately a year of surgery, followed by about another year of recovery. Diagnosis, surgery, recovery. A fifth grader can understand it. After explaining […]

Filed Under: Church Health/Revitalization, Healthy Pastors, Leadership, Seriously Troubled Churches

Encountering Dysfunctional Church Systems

July 1, 2016 By Brian Thorstad

In the 1962, Western classic, “The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance,” Jimmy Stewart plays a fresh-faced young lawyer, Ransom Stoddard, determined to bring law and order to the wild west town of Shinbone. Before he even makes it into town he is robbed and brutally beaten by the outlaw bully, Liberty Valance. As much as […]

Filed Under: Church Health/Revitalization, Church Structure, Leadership, Seriously Troubled Churches

The Problem With Exciting Church Growth

May 23, 2016 By Brian Thorstad

“Problem? What? Are you kidding?” Most of us find the growth of our churches to be exhilarating, exciting, heady. Especially if this growth follows an extended period of little or no growth. New people walking in every Sunday! Favorable comparisons to your newbie’s former pastors! Long dormant ministry slots finally being filled! Except for a […]

Filed Under: Church Health/Revitalization, Disciple Making, Leadership

Demystifying The “Vision Thing”

April 16, 2016 By Brian Thorstad

Vision is like the weather: everybody’s talking about it but nobody’s doing anything about it. If nobody’s doing anything about it, it’s because practically everybody is confused about it. Demystifying the “vision thing” has become a passion for me. It doesn’t have to be painfully confusing. And a single, unifying vision really is vital, not […]

Filed Under: Church Health/Revitalization, Leadership, Strategic Planning

Book review: 5 Gears: How to be present and productive when there is never enough time

April 5, 2016 By Brian Thorstad

Most of us have used figures of speech derived from the experience of shifting the gears of a car or a bicycle. “On my way home from work I try to shift gears so I’m ready to interact with my family.” “While doing lunch with my co-workers I have to change gears and remember to […]

Filed Under: Book Reviews, Healthy Pastors, Leadership

Four Ways To Be Stupid With Your Smart Phone

March 8, 2016 By Brian Thorstad

Okay. I finally did it. After years of cajoling from family and friends, I finally bought a smart phone. Now I have to learn how to use it. More importantly, I have to learn how not to use it.  As usual, our advances in technology have outdistanced our manners, our ethics. On a global scale, […]

Filed Under: Healthy Pastors, Leadership

Four Elephants Which Can Hurt Your Church (and how to kill them)

February 23, 2016 By Brian Thorstad

I can just imagine the faces of the people in the Philippian church. One of their leaders was reading a letter from their church’s founder. Except for a couple of gentle hints about “the unity thing,” most of it had been positive, affectionate and encouraging. Suddenly they heard the words, “I beseech Euodia and I […]

Filed Under: Church Health/Revitalization, Leadership, Seriously Troubled Churches

Three Reasons Why Board Members Should Let Their Pastors Lead

February 17, 2016 By Brian Thorstad

I want every board member reading this to know that I greatly respect you. I’ve walked miles in your moccasins. I know how smart you are, how knowledgeable you are, and how much you’ve invested in your churches. Nevertheless, you need to let your church’s “lead” pastor lead the church that you have poured so […]

Filed Under: Church Boards And Staffs, Church Health/Revitalization, Church Structure, Leadership

More Reasons To Let Your Pastor Lead

February 17, 2016 By Brian Thorstad

In an earlier blog (“Three reasons why board members should let their pastors lead”) I spoke directly to board members and made a case for allowing your “lead” pastor to actually lead your church: to be the one who comes down from the mountain with both a vision and a ministry strategy for your church. […]

Filed Under: Church Boards And Staffs, Church Health/Revitalization, Church Structure, Leadership

Seven Ways To Get On Offense

November 26, 2015 By Brian Thorstad

Okay, I might as well admit it. I’m a typical football fan. I’m mostly interested in offense. I know the birthdays and blood types of the offensive players, especially the so-called “skill positions,” and don’t know much about the defensive players. Shame on me. But my football watching habits also have something to do with […]

Filed Under: Healthy Pastors, Leadership

Models for Elder Ministry

April 5, 2015 By Brian Thorstad

There are many models for how elders "do" their work and what is expected of them. This tool is for pastors and elders to work through together.  It will help you talk through your different understandings and come to agreement on what kind of elder meetings and expectations you want to have.    Download Elder […]

Filed Under: Church Boards And Staffs, Church Structure, Leadership

Interim Pastor-Proof Your Church

August 22, 2010 By Brian Thorstad

Leaving your church is probably okay; leaving a mess behind for an interim pastor or somebody else to try to clean up is not okay. While I love what I do, I don’t want to have to come to your church.

Filed Under: Church Health/Revitalization, Leadership

Do We Have To Have These Business Meetings?

November 11, 2008 By Brian Thorstad

Many  pastors enjoy church business meetings as much as root canals.  A trip to a proctologist or a funeral for a thither is a more welcome event on the calendar.  “Do we have to have these business meetings?” they groan to no one in particular. Far too often these necessary-but-evil events turn out too long, too boring […]

Filed Under: Church Health/Revitalization, Church Structure, Leadership

When Church Members Leave

October 9, 2008 By Brian Thorstad

For many of us, the very mention of the subject of church members leaving knots up our stomachs faster than a phone call from the IRS. Painful memories flood my mind as I sit down to write – and I thought I’d gotten “good at” letting people go. Not that we really want to get […]

Filed Under: Church Health/Revitalization, Leadership, Seriously Troubled Churches

Gaining Restoration Authority

October 2, 2008 By Brian Thorstad

Where do strategic (or “restoration” or “redevelopment”) interim pastors get the authority to change so much so fast in the churches they lead? A church-health expert once told me that “all an interim pastor can do is to give a church a good slap in the face.” As one who has been doing interim pastoring […]

Filed Under: Church Health/Revitalization, Interim Pastoring, Leadership, Seriously Troubled Churches

Slaying The Big Fat Anxiety Elephant

November 17, 2021 By Brian Thorstad

Some of you know that I’m big on slaying elephants.  Elephants in the room, that is.  You can read my “old” post on the subject here.  “Elephants in the room” are subjects that many people are thinking about, distracted by or troubled by, but nobody’s talking about.  They disturb and derail our thoughts, making it […]

Filed Under: Church Health/Revitalization, Leadership, Seriously Troubled Churches

Giving Thanks For The Future

November 24, 2021 By Brian Thorstad

The last year and a half has been a challenging time for most of us.  I don’t think I’m going to get any argument there. And I’m not going to tell you to be thankful.  But I am going to depart a tad from my usual “helping churches thrive” theme and give you some good […]

Filed Under: Healthy Pastors, Leadership

The Three Keys To An Effective Church Revitalization

December 22, 2021 By Brian Thorstad

Most evangelical congregations in America need some degree of revitalization in that they are on the downside of the church lifecycle. This means that there was a time in the past (near or distant) during which the congregation was more effective than it is currently, at making devoted, growing, followers of Jesus out of the […]

Filed Under: Church Health/Revitalization, Leadership

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Testimonials

Pastor Josh Brown I wanted to send you an update. We are two years removed from your [comprehensive assessment] visit to us. Half the church is 18-30 years old. We are reaching a wide array of hurting people. The Lord has been kind to us! We have more ministry than we know what to do with. Thanks again for all you did for us!  We have a really great church!
Pastor Josh Brown
Pastor Darin Kirkman
I am so grateful to God for Brian, his ministry, and his friendship. As a result of his assessment and coaching, my church has experienced unmistakable, God-given renewal. We are increasingly living out our church's mission which is to love and glorify God by making disciples of Jesus Christ. This is clearly showing in terms of spiritual depth (i.e. more people are maturing as Christian disciples) and spiritual width (i.e. more people are becoming Christian disciples). Our communication is clearer, our structure is stronger, our leadership development process is better, our facility stewardship is more proactive, and our cultural mindset is now set on eagerly advancing the kingdom of God. I strongly recommend the Church Whisperer to you.

Pastor Darin Kirkman
Elder Jim I wanted to let you know that we have really made some huge changes in the last few months.  We are seeing new people every week and we had a leadership meeting with 23 in attendance. Pastor ______ is doing well and God is doing amazing things.  Thanks for your support, prayers and love for the church!
Elder Jim
A New Church-Goer ...thank you for your messages at [our church] over the past weeks.  I just started going to _____________ while you were there and hadn't been to church in decades.  Your messages kept me coming back...  Thank you for helping me find my way back to God.
A New Church-Goer
Pastor Trey Turner "Brian is an experienced and insightful investigator of church systems.  He has real skill in looking at and diagnosing some areas needing attention.  I benefited greatly from his insight.  As a result, our church is benefiting greatly.  The process Brian took us through gave it the encouragement it needed to begin coming out of the 2020 difficulties.  We will work on the insights Brian provided as a roadmap back to better health."
Pastor Trey Turner
Pastor Greg Lund I've appreciated so much Brian's very practical coaching as he's guided me and the leadership of our church as we've sought to become more effective for God's kingdom. His extensive experience in assisting churches navigate a variety of issues makes him highly qualified to help lead churches through congregational change.
Pastor Greg Lund
Pastor Bruce Jahnke
"Our church is extremely grateful for the insight, adaptability and wisdom Brian so graciously contributed to our needs as we transitioned.  Our pastor transition was from Father to Son, which is by definition, difficult.  Yet Brian was able to foresee issues, feelings and responses with high accuracy.  Brian is personable, yet can direct when he needs to help us be reasonable and vision-oriented."

Pastor Bruce Jahnke
Andy Shanholtz I had the privilege of co leading a pastor’s training group with Brian. Brian’s wealth of knowledge and practical experience was an asset to all of us. The interaction with the group and the relationships built was a great value. I highly recommend having Brian facilitate a group to provide invaluable resources and practical knowledge.
Andy Shanholtz
Pastor Jed Manders
Leadership development within cohorts and peer groups has become increasingly popular, and rightfully so. Being involved in Brian’s leadership training group allowed me the opportunity to work through challenges, develop strengths and learn from both reading and peer development.


Pastor Jed Manders
Pastor Mark Pitroff "I have been so privileged and encouraged to be ministered to by Brian Thorstad as I have served as an Interim Pastor here in central Wisconsin.  He has been such a help and encouragement to me and especially, to this church I have served - Faith Community Church of Waupaca.  His leadership in helping us develop the “Journey Wall” enabled us to look back on the church’s history, the high points as well as the difficulties faced, especially in recent years.   Brian has helped FCC recover from a very difficult time…  Brian was such an encouragement to us, especially in the early months of recovery and preparation."
Pastor Mark Pitroff
Pastor Dan Norman “I enjoyed getting to know the guys in the group [and] I appreciated the thought, mind and spiritual challenges presented… I found many things that I was able to immediately apply, and I am still developing next steps that much of the discussion and training of this class helped to build a foundation for. [The handouts on strategic planning] will continue to be helpful in trying to guide our church to being more intentional. This [was] exactly what I was looking for at exactly the time I needed it.”
Pastor Dan Norman
Pastor Steven Boyd  "This course showed me that I, as a solo pastor, have to do things that don’t come naturally to me and has given me some tools to do the hard things.”
Pastor Steven Boyd 
Pastor Brian Schley “I found value in our meetings and am grateful you invited me to be part of it as a ‘future senior pastor.’ I enjoyed being able to be part of the conversations and glean from those beyond me. Thanks for your leadership with the group and your heart for pastors!”
Pastor Brian Schley
Pastor Todd Sauve "It was a privilege to have been a part of a pastors group led by Brian Thorstad. It's always great to learn from other pastors, and someone needs to provide leadership to make that happen. I'm thankful that Brian was willing to do that, and to share from both his successes and failures in ministry. He's honest, humble, and cares about people."
Pastor Todd Sauve

Brian A. Thorstad

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