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Three Ways Great Churches Focus On Action

November 13, 2017 By Brian Thorstad

“Words! Words! I get words all day through; First from him, now from you! Is that all you blighters can do?” Eliza Doolittle singing “Show Me” in Alan Lerner and Frederick Loewe’s “My Fair Lady” It sounds simplistic but I believe it’s true. Mediocre churches focus on words; great churches focus on actions. Here’s what […]

Filed Under: Church Health/Revitalization, Disciple Making, Strategic Planning

Book Review: The Externally Focused Quest

March 4, 2017 By Brian Thorstad

The challenge of turning an inwardly focused church into a vibrant, externally focused mission to its community is formidable. It’s no accident then that the same writers who gave us The Externally Focused Church, Eric Swanson and Rick Rusaw, felt led to follow it up with The Externally Focused Quest. It is a quest, and […]

Filed Under: Book Reviews, Church Health/Revitalization, Disciple Making, Leadership

The Problem With Exciting Church Growth

May 23, 2016 By Brian Thorstad

“Problem? What? Are you kidding?” Most of us find the growth of our churches to be exhilarating, exciting, heady. Especially if this growth follows an extended period of little or no growth. New people walking in every Sunday! Favorable comparisons to your newbie’s former pastors! Long dormant ministry slots finally being filled! Except for a […]

Filed Under: Church Health/Revitalization, Disciple Making, Leadership

Welcoming Our Post-Apocalyptic Guests

December 10, 2021 By Brian Thorstad

I concede that my title might be a bit wonky, but there’s method in my madness. Everybody knows that most churches lost people by way of the COVID shut down. Some folks decided that if it’s okay to just “watch church” on a screen at home during the shutdown, it should be okay to continue […]

Filed Under: Church Health/Revitalization, Disciple Making

Nickels And Noses: Better Ways To Measure Church Effectiveness

December 16, 2021 By Brian Thorstad

Are we really getting anywhere?  Are we actually making disciples, or just going through the motions, doing what we’ve always done while getting what we’ve always gotten? These are hard but important questions for church leaders to ask. I’m assuming that you agree with me that the church’s #1 “job,” its mission, is to make […]

Filed Under: Church Boards And Staffs, Church Health/Revitalization, Disciple Making

Pipelines, Pathways And The Church’s Supply Chain Crisis

January 13, 2022 By Brian Thorstad

Everybody knows that we have a supply chain problem in America in 2022.  It’s irritating.  It’s frustrating.  And it’s hard to put a finger on exactly what the problem is.  All I know for sure is that there are a lot of items “missing” when I go to the store. After twenty-two months of the […]

Filed Under: Church Health/Revitalization, Church Structure, Disciple Making

Reversing The Church’s Supply Chain Crisis

January 19, 2022 By Brian Thorstad

Last week I wrote about Pipelines, Pathways And The Church’s Supply Chain Crisis. It wasn’t about computer chips, potato chips, toilet tissue or gasoline, it was about the lack of new attendees, and much more importantly, new converts to Christ, coming in our church doors.  This paragraph was the heart of the post: Even in […]

Filed Under: Church Health/Revitalization, Disciple Making

Don’t Be Bashful: Most People Are Still “Lost In America”

March 23, 2022 By Brian Thorstad

“I am not ashamed of the gospel…” Romans 1:16 Back in 2001, Tom Clegg and Warren Bird gave us great encouragement with their book, Lost In America. The subtitle was “How You And Your Church Can Impact The World Next Door.” Before you change channels because I’m reviewing an “old book,” give this post a […]

Filed Under: Church Health/Revitalization, Disciple Making

Your Kommittees Could Be Killing Your Church

August 24, 2022 By Brian Thorstad

I’m not an anti-committee iconoclast.  I only know one committee joke: Q – “What’s a camel?” A – “A horse put together by a committee.” That’s it, and now I have that out of my system. Committees can actually be wonderful: I’ve seen pastoral search committees that served God well by helping their congregations locate […]

Filed Under: Church Health/Revitalization, Church Structure, Disciple Making, Seriously Troubled Churches, Strategic Planning

The Revitalization Playbook: Play #2 – Help Your Church To Take Responsibility For Its Condition

March 23, 2023 By Brian Thorstad

Two weeks ago I began sharing a revitalization playbook.  It’s not a step-by-step manual for church renewal, for I don’t believe that creating a universally applicable revitalization plan is possible. But it is going to be a playbook, like that of a football team which has a couple dozen plays it has practiced extensively. And […]

Filed Under: Church Health/Revitalization, Disciple Making

The Revitalization Playbook: Return To Real Discipleship

June 27, 2023 By Brian Thorstad

We’re working on a revitalization playbook, a compendium of initiatives which church leaders can choose from, under the Holy Spirit’s guidance, in their efforts to see their congregations returned to vibrant, Great-Commission health. My final suggestion for you – and by no means am I saying that I’ve given you these in the order of […]

Filed Under: Church Health/Revitalization, Disciple Making

A New Day Of Small Things

August 9, 2023 By Brian Thorstad

We have a saying in America: “Go Big Or Go Home!” We like big stores, big stadiums, big stadium events and big churches. Unfortunately for those of us who are disciples of Jesus, this is a new day of small things, not a new day of big things. You’ve probably read the same stats that […]

Filed Under: Church Health/Revitalization, Disciple Making

A Simple Secret For Better Evangelism

March 17, 2025 By Brian Thorstad

This will probably be the simplest post I’ve written for a long time.  Not “simplistic” I hope, but simple, and maybe even short. I was talking to a pastor a few weeks ago about his excellent church. And it really is. It’s united, growing spiritually, growing by way of new converts to Christ and joyful. […]

Filed Under: Church Health/Revitalization, Disciple Making, Healthy Pastors

What An Outward Focus Actually Looks Like

May 28, 2025 By Brian Thorstad

Nowadays, just about everybody knows that churches should have an outward focus.  The average evangelical church member has heard the term enough times to know that, when cast as a “Sunday School question,” as in, “Does your church have an outward focus?” the orthodox answer is “yes.” I’m realizing that if I really want to […]

Filed Under: Church Health/Revitalization, Disciple Making, Seriously Troubled Churches

Programs, Paradigms And Presuppositions: Why We’re Struggling With Disciple-Making

October 7, 2025 By Brian Thorstad

Trends come and go.  Some are good and some are…not so good. The disciple-making trend, which can legitimately be called a movement is one of the most encouraging trends I’ve seen for a long time. At its heart, the “new” disciple-making movement (or DM) is a shift back towards an understanding of the Christian life, […]

Filed Under: Church Health/Revitalization, Church Structure, Disciple Making

Eight Ways We Can Return To Discipleship WITH Disciple-Making

October 9, 2025 By Brian Thorstad

Last week I wrote a post called “Programs, paradigms and presuppositions: Why we’re struggling with disciple-making.”  I began by rejoicing over the “new” disciple-making movement (DM) and how it is seeking to return the American Evangelical church to a version of Christian discipleship (the Christian life) that includes disciple-making as part of the paradigm. I […]

Filed Under: Church Health/Revitalization, Disciple Making

Let’s Invite The Young Into The Greatest Movement Ever

October 31, 2025 By Brian Thorstad

“Son, that’s just the way it is. Some things will never change.” Bruce Hornsby, 1986 Since the assassination of Charlie Kirk there’s been a lot of great discussion about the movement he had begun and how attractive it was, and is – now more than ever – to young people. This has been a great […]

Filed Under: Disciple Making, Theology

“Playbook” Chapters I Need To Add: Help Your Congregation Discover Their Riches In Christ

January 9, 2026 By Brian Thorstad

Just a note: In 2025 we launched “The Revitalization Playbook.” The “Playbook” is similar to the ones used by football coaches on the sidelines.  The coach’s playbook contains all the plays that the coach is confident that his team can run. Conditions on the field determine which play he chooses next. In my “Playbook,” knowing […]

Filed Under: Church Health/Revitalization, Disciple Making

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Testimonials

Pastor Josh Brown I wanted to send you an update. We are two years removed from your [comprehensive assessment] visit to us. Half the church is 18-30 years old. We are reaching a wide array of hurting people. The Lord has been kind to us! We have more ministry than we know what to do with. Thanks again for all you did for us!  We have a really great church!
Pastor Josh Brown
Pastor Darin Kirkman
I am so grateful to God for Brian, his ministry, and his friendship. As a result of his assessment and coaching, my church has experienced unmistakable, God-given renewal. We are increasingly living out our church's mission which is to love and glorify God by making disciples of Jesus Christ. This is clearly showing in terms of spiritual depth (i.e. more people are maturing as Christian disciples) and spiritual width (i.e. more people are becoming Christian disciples). Our communication is clearer, our structure is stronger, our leadership development process is better, our facility stewardship is more proactive, and our cultural mindset is now set on eagerly advancing the kingdom of God. I strongly recommend the Church Whisperer to you.

Pastor Darin Kirkman
Elder Jim I wanted to let you know that we have really made some huge changes in the last few months.  We are seeing new people every week and we had a leadership meeting with 23 in attendance. Pastor ______ is doing well and God is doing amazing things.  Thanks for your support, prayers and love for the church!
Elder Jim
A New Church-Goer ...thank you for your messages at [our church] over the past weeks.  I just started going to _____________ while you were there and hadn't been to church in decades.  Your messages kept me coming back...  Thank you for helping me find my way back to God.
A New Church-Goer
Pastor Trey Turner "Brian is an experienced and insightful investigator of church systems.  He has real skill in looking at and diagnosing some areas needing attention.  I benefited greatly from his insight.  As a result, our church is benefiting greatly.  The process Brian took us through gave it the encouragement it needed to begin coming out of the 2020 difficulties.  We will work on the insights Brian provided as a roadmap back to better health."
Pastor Trey Turner
Pastor Greg Lund I've appreciated so much Brian's very practical coaching as he's guided me and the leadership of our church as we've sought to become more effective for God's kingdom. His extensive experience in assisting churches navigate a variety of issues makes him highly qualified to help lead churches through congregational change.
Pastor Greg Lund
Pastor Bruce Jahnke
"Our church is extremely grateful for the insight, adaptability and wisdom Brian so graciously contributed to our needs as we transitioned.  Our pastor transition was from Father to Son, which is by definition, difficult.  Yet Brian was able to foresee issues, feelings and responses with high accuracy.  Brian is personable, yet can direct when he needs to help us be reasonable and vision-oriented."

Pastor Bruce Jahnke
Andy Shanholtz I had the privilege of co leading a pastor’s training group with Brian. Brian’s wealth of knowledge and practical experience was an asset to all of us. The interaction with the group and the relationships built was a great value. I highly recommend having Brian facilitate a group to provide invaluable resources and practical knowledge.
Andy Shanholtz
Pastor Jed Manders
Leadership development within cohorts and peer groups has become increasingly popular, and rightfully so. Being involved in Brian’s leadership training group allowed me the opportunity to work through challenges, develop strengths and learn from both reading and peer development.


Pastor Jed Manders
Pastor Mark Pitroff "I have been so privileged and encouraged to be ministered to by Brian Thorstad as I have served as an Interim Pastor here in central Wisconsin.  He has been such a help and encouragement to me and especially, to this church I have served - Faith Community Church of Waupaca.  His leadership in helping us develop the “Journey Wall” enabled us to look back on the church’s history, the high points as well as the difficulties faced, especially in recent years.   Brian has helped FCC recover from a very difficult time…  Brian was such an encouragement to us, especially in the early months of recovery and preparation."
Pastor Mark Pitroff
Pastor Dan Norman “I enjoyed getting to know the guys in the group [and] I appreciated the thought, mind and spiritual challenges presented… I found many things that I was able to immediately apply, and I am still developing next steps that much of the discussion and training of this class helped to build a foundation for. [The handouts on strategic planning] will continue to be helpful in trying to guide our church to being more intentional. This [was] exactly what I was looking for at exactly the time I needed it.”
Pastor Dan Norman
Pastor Steven Boyd  "This course showed me that I, as a solo pastor, have to do things that don’t come naturally to me and has given me some tools to do the hard things.”
Pastor Steven Boyd 
Pastor Brian Schley “I found value in our meetings and am grateful you invited me to be part of it as a ‘future senior pastor.’ I enjoyed being able to be part of the conversations and glean from those beyond me. Thanks for your leadership with the group and your heart for pastors!”
Pastor Brian Schley
Pastor Todd Sauve "It was a privilege to have been a part of a pastors group led by Brian Thorstad. It's always great to learn from other pastors, and someone needs to provide leadership to make that happen. I'm thankful that Brian was willing to do that, and to share from both his successes and failures in ministry. He's honest, humble, and cares about people."
Pastor Todd Sauve

Brian A. Thorstad

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